Lambert Out?

[jonzy85]

Let's give the bloke a decent chance at it.

That's it for me, too. If we're still bottom 4 by the end of the season, it'll be very disappointing. I don't think we will be, and am more than willing to give him the time to truly make this squad (note, not just team) his.

I think many fans have underestimated how bad things really were last season. A 'losing mentality' took root at Villa about last January/February and we are finally comingout of it. As I said last night, the Reading game was one we would have either lost or only got a point from circa February to May. Confidence is beginning to grow and that in itself will help our performances. We were so brittle (fans and players alike) throughout 2012 that we feared losing so much we couldn't win.

We are making progress.

Is that a round about way of blaming McLeish for how shit we've been this season? Oh come on!
The reason we're shite is because Lerner in his wisdom decided to sell practically all the best players and replace them with infererior ones, nothing to do with the previous manager. We're doing things on the cheap now, and having a poorer team is one of the consequences.

Nail on the head!

[LeeB]

Let's give the bloke a decent chance at it.

That's it for me, too. If we're still bottom 4 by the end of the season, it'll be very disappointing. I don't think we will be, and am more than willing to give him the time to truly make this squad (note, not just team) his.

I think many fans have underestimated how bad things really were last season. A 'losing mentality' took root at Villa about last January/February and we are finally comingout of it. As I said last night, the Reading game was one we would have either lost or only got a point from circa February to May. Confidence is beginning to grow and that in itself will help our performances. We were so brittle (fans and players alike) throughout 2012 that we feared losing so much we couldn't win.

We are making progress.

Is that a round about way of blaming McLeish for how shit we've been this season? Oh come on!
The reason we're shite is because Lerner in his wisdom decided to sell practically all the best players and replace them with infererior ones, nothing to do with the previous manager. We're doing things on the cheap now, and having a poorer team is one of the consequences.

Nail on the head!

Boring drivel more like.

[Rip Van We Go Again]

Is that a round about way of blaming McLeish for how shit we've been this season? Oh come on!
The reason we're shite is because Lerner in his wisdom decided to sell practically all the best players and replace them with infererior ones, nothing to do with the previous manager. We're doing things on the cheap now, and having a poorer team is one of the consequences.

Oh dear.
Now you're for it!

[Risso]

I also don't think Houllier was 'shit', either.

He wasn't that good.

[Drummond]

If we play well and lose people aren't happy (see Man U).

If we play poorly and win, people still aren't happy (see Reading).

We clearly have to get over ourselves if we think we're going to be playing great football and winning all the time.

[Risso]

If we play well and lose people aren't happy (see Man U).

If we play poorly and win, people still aren't happy (see Reading).

We clearly have to get over ourselves if we think we're going to be playing great football and winning all the time.

All the time?  Is more than a handful of times a year really too much to ask for?  But anyway, I think you're entirely wrong.  Pointing out that the performance against Reading wasn't very good doesn't mean that people weren't happy we won. 

[Chris Smith]

All this talk of Bent not getting a chance overlooks one thing, he's featured 11 times this season.

Benteke has out-performed him and is in the side on merit. The system we set up with doesn't really allow the two of them to play together and Bowery is a more like for like replacement to cover for injuries etc.

We can either change the system to try to accommodate Bent or we can cash in and use the money to buy players that fit the system we play. It's harsh but that's football.   

[Risso]

All this talk of Bent not getting a chance overlooks one thing, he's featured 11 times this season.

Benteke has out-performed him and is in the side on merit. The system we set up with doesn't really allow the two of them to play together and Bowery is a more like for like replacement to cover for injuries etc.

We can either change the system to try to accommodate Bent or we can cash in and use the money to buy players that fit the system we play. It's harsh but that's football.   

What are you basing that Bowery comment on Chris?

[pauliewalnuts]

I also don't think Houllier was 'shit', either.

He wasn't that good.

He was Pep Guardiola compared to what we had last year.

[Chris Smith]

All this talk of Bent not getting a chance overlooks one thing, he's featured 11 times this season.

Benteke has out-performed him and is in the side on merit. The system we set up with doesn't really allow the two of them to play together and Bowery is a more like for like replacement to cover for injuries etc.

We can either change the system to try to accommodate Bent or we can cash in and use the money to buy players that fit the system we play. It's harsh but that's football.   

What are you basing that Bowery comment on Chris?

Fair comment, I should have put something about "the manager sees him as...". The main point though is that he doesn't think Bent fits with the way he wants to play and it's his job to make those decisions.

[dave.woodhall]

Is that a round about way of blaming McLeish for how shit we've been this season? Oh come on!
The reason we're shite is because Lerner in his wisdom decided to sell practically all the best players and replace them with infererior ones, nothing to do with the previous manager. We're doing things on the cheap now, and having a poorer team is one of the consequences.

Oh dear.
Now you're for it!

And why might that be? Of the two final sentences, parts of the first are arguable and the second fairly self-evident. There's really no reason for anyone to be "for it."

[Rip Van We Go Again]

Is that a round about way of blaming McLeish for how shit we've been this season? Oh come on!
The reason we're shite is because Lerner in his wisdom decided to sell practically all the best players and replace them with infererior ones, nothing to do with the previous manager. We're doing things on the cheap now, and having a poorer team is one of the consequences.

Oh dear.
Now you're for it!

And why might that be? Of the two final sentences, parts of the first are arguable and the second fairly self-evident. There's really no reason for anyone to be "for it."

Didn't Ozzjim describe the comments made about Blandy (by Saunders amongst others)  in the Match thread as 'scandalous' ?

[dave.woodhall]

Is that a round about way of blaming McLeish for how shit we've been this season? Oh come on!
The reason we're shite is because Lerner in his wisdom decided to sell practically all the best players and replace them with infererior ones, nothing to do with the previous manager. We're doing things on the cheap now, and having a poorer team is one of the consequences.

Oh dear.
Now you're for it!

And why might that be? Of the two final sentences, parts of the first are arguable and the second fairly self-evident. There's really no reason for anyone to be "for it."

Didn't Ozzjim describe the comments made about Blandy (by Saunders amongst others)  in the Match thread as 'scandalous' ?

I have no idea. Is Ozzjim not allowed to disagree with anyone?

[Rip Van We Go Again]

Is that a round about way of blaming McLeish for how shit we've been this season? Oh come on!
The reason we're shite is because Lerner in his wisdom decided to sell practically all the best players and replace them with infererior ones, nothing to do with the previous manager. We're doing things on the cheap now, and having a poorer team is one of the consequences.

Oh dear.
Now you're for it!

And why might that be? Of the two final sentences, parts of the first are arguable and the second fairly self-evident. There's really no reason for anyone to be "for it."

Didn't Ozzjim describe the comments made about Blandy (by Saunders amongst others)  in the Match thread as 'scandalous' ?

I have no idea. Is Ozzjim not allowed to disagree with anyone?

By all means, but i'd hardly describe criticism of the sleeping Yank 'scandalous.'

[eastie]

All this talk of Bent not getting a chance overlooks one thing, he's featured 11 times this season.

Benteke has out-performed him and is in the side on merit. The system we set up with doesn't really allow the two of them to play together and Bowery is a more like for like replacement to cover for injuries etc.

We can either change the system to try to accommodate Bent or we can cash in and use the money to buy players that fit the system we play. It's harsh but that's football.   

What are you basing that Bowery comment on Chris?

Fair comment, I should have put something about "the manager sees him as...". The main point though is that he doesn't think Bent fits with the way he wants to play and it's his job to make those decisions.

I don't think the question is whether bent should be playing ahead of benteke- it's whether bent should be playing alongside benteke or at least on the bench.

Nobody I've seen has any gripe about benteke starting. I see no reason why bent and n benteke can't both start, we need goals and gabby has one league goal in 30 games .