Lambert Out?

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If we'd have played West Ham, Fulham, Spurs, Newcastle  and Southampton at home, we'd be better off.

I strongly believe that we'll beat Norwich on Saturday and have a good opportunity of getting something at Sunderland.

We've been abject in a few games, especially away from home, but there are still a lot of positives and at least signs of doing something.

[curiousorange]

My match report for Saturday's just been posted here: http://pickourteam.com/premierleague/aston-villa/fansverdict/20-10-2012/Fulham-vs-Aston%20Villa. It's a very angry snapshot in which Lambert doesn't come out too well. After a bit of thought, I'm more well-disposed towards our boss and don't feel he needs to go, but I think the points in the article are still valid, if a little rabid.

[not3bad]

I was'nt a Houiller fan to be honest but it's unfair to say he left us in a mess. His signings were actually very good but the players did'nt seem to take to him and maybe management had passed him by.

Pires?

I'd forgot about him. In fairness, he was a free and brought in when our injury list was huge.

Houllier was hoping that Pires would give us what Robbie Keane gave us a year later.

[dave.woodhall]

I was'nt a Houiller fan to be honest but it's unfair to say he left us in a mess. His signings were actually very good but the players did'nt seem to take to him and maybe management had passed him by.

Pires?

I'd forgot about him. In fairness, he was a free and brought in when our injury list was huge.

Houllier was hoping that Pires would give us what Robbie Keane gave us a year later.

I don't even think that. We needed someone, anyone, and he was the best available.

[Risso]

I was'nt a Houiller fan to be honest but it's unfair to say he left us in a mess. His signings were actually very good but the players did'nt seem to take to him and maybe management had passed him by.

Pires?

I'd forgot about him. In fairness, he was a free and brought in when our injury list was huge.

Houllier was hoping that Pires would give us what Robbie Keane gave us a year later.

I don't even think that. We needed someone, anyone, and he was the best available.

I can see the argument for getting him in, even if Crawley Town appeared to be the only other team interested in him.  But it was immediately obvious that he was miles past his best, and yet we were chauffering him up and down the motorways to play in a good dozen games.

[dave.woodhall]

That probably says more about the idiocy of modern football. Led Zeppelin c 1972 would have baulked at some of the demands of Premier League players.

[hilts_coolerking]

As for Learner he is trying to stabilise the club so it can continue and not spiral into administration etc. As for wanting him out as well, how can you guarantee that we will get a man city-esq owner who will buy our way to the top, we could just as easily end up like Blackburn!!

I'd be more inclined to believe that if his actions over the last two seasons had not actually decreased the stability of the club.  I wouldn't want him to move on simply because I want someone with more money but I wouldn't be averse to him being replaced by someone with a better grasp of running a football club.  And such a person would not be difficult to find.  As paulie is wont to say, it's hard to see how Lerner et al could have made a bigger horlicks of the last two years if they'd tried.

Lambert has my full support and, frankly, it could take at least three seasons just to get us on an even keel again.  But Lerner I'm now totally ambivalent about.  The first three years he didn't put a foot wrong but as soon as he had some proper football decisions to make he revealed himself to be a well-meaning disaster area.

[Legion]

Perhaps he was badly advised?

[hilts_coolerking]

Perhaps he was badly advised?

Badly advised once is understandable.  Badly advised twice is not. 

[not3bad]

Lerner might do better now he isn't weighed down with his responsibility to the Cleveland Browns.

[Risso]

Lerner might do better now he isn't weighed down with his responsibility to the Cleveland Browns.

He's still got people like Faulkner working for him though.  A man who thinks that the decision to appoint McLeish was only a bad one with the benefit of hindsight.

[danlanza]

It has been posted on here before, get rid of Faulkner and get someone in with a football brain before we have any more American shitty style half time entertainment ( in the bloody Championship)

[Chris Smith]

Lerner might do better now he isn't weighed down with his responsibility to the Cleveland Browns.

He's still got people like Faulkner working for him though.  A man who thinks that the decision to appoint McLeish was only a bad one with the benefit of hindsight.

It seems to me that Faulkner is essentially an overseer of the business side of things and has little input into football decisions, I doubt it was his decision to appoint Mcleish and in defending it he's just sticking up for his boss and toeing the party line.

[eastie]

Lerner might do better now he isn't weighed down with his responsibility to the Cleveland Browns.

He's still got people like Faulkner working for him though.  A man who thinks that the decision to appoint McLeish was only a bad one with the benefit of hindsight.

It seems to me that Faulkner is essentially an overseer of the business side of things and has little input into football decisions, I doubt it was his decision to appoint Mcleish and in defending it he's just sticking up for his boss and toeing the party line.

You may be right chris but I feel we could do with an experienced football man on the board to help out Paul and randy.

[not3bad]

It seems to me that since the start of the Summer Lerner and Faulkner have been making the right decisions.  Mcleish was sacked, Lambert appointed with Kaza and Culverhouse and so was a scouting coordinator for foreign players.

Why the need for another "football man"?  Aren't the personnelle listed there enough?