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Re: Lambert Out?
« Reply #105 on: October 21, 2012, 06:40:51 PM »
There was an air of panic about the appointments of both Houllier and McLeish.

Th scary thing is that there was no panic about appointing McLeish.

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Re: Lambert Out?
« Reply #106 on: October 21, 2012, 06:48:18 PM »
There was an air of panic about the appointments of both Houllier and McLeish.

Th scary thing is that there was no panic about appointing McLeish.
That is scary.  I haven't met anyone who thought that was a good appointment and unless I meet Lerner, Faulkner or McLeish I'm not likely to.

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Re: Lambert Out?
« Reply #107 on: October 21, 2012, 06:56:01 PM »
There was an air of panic about the appointments of both Houllier and McLeish.

Th scary thing is that there was no panic about appointing McLeish.
That is scary.  I haven't met anyone who thought that was a good appointment and unless I meet Lerner, Faulkner or McLeish I'm not likely to.

I'd like to think that at least two of those have realised the error of their ways.

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Re: Lambert Out?
« Reply #108 on: October 21, 2012, 07:01:43 PM »
There was an air of panic about the appointments of both Houllier and McLeish.

Th scary thing is that there was no panic about appointing McLeish.
That is scary.  I haven't met anyone who thought that was a good appointment and unless I meet Lerner, Faulkner or McLeish I'm not likely to.

I'd like to think that at least two of those have realised the error of their ways.

Well, it cost Lerner a pretty penny, and I don't suppose McLeish enjoyed his time with us.  Faulkner though, still seems to think that it was a fair decision at the time.

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Re: Lambert Out?
« Reply #109 on: October 21, 2012, 07:04:13 PM »
Hilts, ciggies and clampy jointly summarize my views.

If there is a theme running through our post-Ellis period it is that those running the club, and I include the owner in part in that group,. they were all learning on the job.

The two kinds of people we have most needed at VP in the post-Ellis period are football men (or women) running the show and not flim flam football virgins who as ciggies points out, think we want flame throwers and giant plastic football races at half time and ear drum shattering PA bawling about getting behind the team.   It is all so amateur and silly.

The other sort of people we need are creative midfielders.   We are inadequate in the middle third of the pitch and have been for three years.   The results scream out for a Kevin Richardson, a Ray Houghton, a Paul Merson or a fit and healthy Stan.

In short we need a football brain in Faulkner's place and a football brain in Delph, Bannan, Holman, KEA's place.

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Re: Lambert Out?
« Reply #110 on: October 21, 2012, 07:07:03 PM »
I was'nt a Houiller fan to be honest but it's unfair to say he left us in a mess. His signings were actually very good but the players did'nt seem to take to him and maybe management had passed him by.
Pires?

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Re: Lambert Out?
« Reply #111 on: October 21, 2012, 07:08:52 PM »
I was'nt a Houiller fan to be honest but it's unfair to say he left us in a mess. His signings were actually very good but the players did'nt seem to take to him and maybe management had passed him by.
Pires?

Probably the best free agent we could get as the window was shut.

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Re: Lambert Out?
« Reply #112 on: October 21, 2012, 07:09:26 PM »
I was'nt a Houiller fan to be honest but it's unfair to say he left us in a mess. His signings were actually very good but the players did'nt seem to take to him and maybe management had passed him by.
Pires?

We signed Pires short-term at a time when we scarcely had the numbers for a five a side and there was no-one else available. There's not much difference between him and loaning Gabor Kiraly.

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Re: Lambert Out?
« Reply #113 on: October 21, 2012, 07:09:43 PM »
I was'nt a Houiller fan to be honest but it's unfair to say he left us in a mess. His signings were actually very good but the players did'nt seem to take to him and maybe management had passed him by.
Pires?

I'd forgot about him. In fairness, he was a free and brought in when our injury list was huge.

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Re: Lambert Out?
« Reply #114 on: October 21, 2012, 07:10:05 PM »
Let's hope we see the return of Robbie Keane.

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Re: Lambert Out?
« Reply #115 on: October 21, 2012, 07:16:14 PM »
In fairness to houllier I agree that the injury list was very bad and I may have judged him a bit harshly , but I still feel he was a poor appointment and his man management skills left  a lot to be desired.

May have been more suited to head scout or director of football than a hands on coaching role, or even an experienced head on the board to give guidance to Faulkner and lerner .

Back to the ,main subject of lambert, I think he needs one or two experienced quality midfielders in January , it's a pity we appeared to miss out in benayoun as he would have added creativity and experience.
« Last Edit: October 21, 2012, 07:50:30 PM by eastie »

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Re: Lambert Out?
« Reply #116 on: October 21, 2012, 08:12:30 PM »
Lambert is still trying to gel players together. I think by playing Benteke-Bent and Baker instead of Clarke will make a big difference with a now fit Ireland. Think things will turn around after a home win against Norwich ........

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Re: Lambert Out?
« Reply #117 on: October 21, 2012, 08:21:03 PM »
Lambert is still trying to gel players together. I think by playing Benteke-Bent and Baker instead of Clarke will make a big difference with a now fit Ireland. Think things will turn around after a home win against Norwich ........

Was very impressed by baker yesterday, I hope his injury isn't too bad as it looked a nasty one.

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Re: Lambert Out?
« Reply #118 on: October 22, 2012, 01:12:28 PM »
Lambert has been in the job 10mins and people are already on his back. Even Mcleish had longer than this.

Lambert is building a squad for the future. What use is a quick fix?? Eventually more cracks will appear than were there in the first place!
He is bringing his the types of players he would like to build a squad round: young, hungry and in it for the football.

As for Learner he is trying to stabilise the club so it can continue and not spiral into administration etc. As for wanting him out as well, how can you guarantee that we will get a man city-esq owner who will buy our way to the top, we could just as easily end up like Blackburn!!

I'm not naive in thinking we are absolutely fine and we have no worries whatsoever. But to call for the manager and owners head is just fickle.  We will come good, have faith. You can see that by the quality of the football being played now, we just need to be patient!

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Re: Lambert Out?
« Reply #119 on: October 22, 2012, 01:16:57 PM »
Lambert has been in the job 10mins and people are already on his back. Even Mcleish had longer than this.

Lambert is building a squad for the future. What use is a quick fix?? Eventually more cracks will appear than were there in the first place!
He is bringing his the types of players he would like to build a squad round: young, hungry and in it for the football.

As for Learner he is trying to stabilise the club so it can continue and not spiral into administration etc. As for wanting him out as well, how can you guarantee that we will get a man city-esq owner who will buy our way to the top, we could just as easily end up like Blackburn!!

I'm not naive in thinking we are absolutely fine and we have no worries whatsoever. But to call for the manager and owners head is just fickle.  We will come good, have faith. You can see that by the quality of the football being played now, we just need to be patient!


I think you've misunderstood the point of this forum. First posts are supposed to be asking for tickets and stuff, not arguing rational and well-thought out points.

 


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