Doug Ellis - patron saint of alkies

[dave.woodhall]

Cider is a naturally very potent drink. But because there is less tax on it than other alcoholic beverages - supposedly to encourage the planting of traditional orchards - manufacturers and retailers can make more profit out of it.

I make my own and would be amazed if it were less than 8% alcohol.

Can I try some? Seriously.

Why can't you make your own? What harm could it do?

[damon loves JT]

Lee, have some of mine. But don't try standing up for a couple of hours afterwards.

[Legion]

Cider is a naturally very potent drink. But because there is less tax on it than other alcoholic beverages - supposedly to encourage the planting of traditional orchards - manufacturers and retailers can make more profit out of it.

I make my own and would be amazed if it were less than 8% alcohol.

Can I try some? Seriously.

Why can't you make your own? What harm could it do?

I'd probably destroy half of Walsall. Actually, that doesn't sound too bad an idea.

[Legion]

Lee, have some of mine. But don't try standing up for a couple of hours afterwards.

I'd love to.

[PeterWithesShin]

Cider is a naturally very potent drink. But because there is less tax on it than other alcoholic beverages - supposedly to encourage the planting of traditional orchards - manufacturers and retailers can make more profit out of it.

I make my own and would be amazed if it were less than 8% alcohol.

Can I try some? Seriously.

Why can't you make your own? What harm could it do?

I'd probably destroy improve half of Walsall. Actually, that doesn't sound too bad an idea.

Fixed.

[silhillvilla]

Is the Serpentine the big car park at the back of the Villa Leisure Aston Events Centre?

That's the one. it was sold to some local community group/business which never began trading.

Advantage West Midlands which was set up around 2007 with big plans around supporting the Olympics when villa park was a likely venue and the US team were going to base training around a birmingham base.

[silhillvilla]

Sorry just to clarify, the Serpentine site was effectively purchased with tax payers money. So we all own a piece of it now 

[danlanza]

Has this type of "Cider" ever seen a bloody apple ? Or is it just all chemicals ?
Tastes like shite.

[dave.woodhall]

Is the Serpentine the big car park at the back of the Villa Leisure Aston Events Centre?

That's the one. it was sold to some local community group/business which never began trading.

Advantage West Midlands which was set up around 2007 with big plans around supporting the Olympics when villa park was a likely venue and the US team were going to base training around a birmingham base.

AWM was a regional development agency set up in 1999. The people who bought the Serpentine were Birmingham Community Sports Limited, which may have had AWM financing but never traded and were wound up a coupe of years later. There were no links with the Olympics; it was reckoned that they were set up to renovate the Leisure Centre but that plan didn't work.

[joe_c]

Cider is a naturally very potent drink. But because there is less tax on it than other alcoholic beverages - supposedly to encourage the planting of traditional orchards - manufacturers and retailers can make more profit out of it.

I make my own and would be amazed if it were less than 8% alcohol.

Can I try some? Seriously.

Why can't you make your own? What harm could it do?

I see no potential issues in a mild mannered schoolteacher turning his hand to producing a highly intoxicating recreational substance.

[The Left Side]

Is it an old myth that there is a water source under Villa Park that Ellis uses for Aston Manor?

[bertlambshank]

Is it an old myth that there is a water source under Villa Park that Ellis uses for Aston Manor?

No myth it's true.Ansell's used it as well.

[The Left Side]

Where is/was the ansell's brewery?

[dave.woodhall]

Is it an old myth that there is a water source under Villa Park that Ellis uses for Aston Manor?

No myth it's true.Ansell's used it as well.

I'm not sure it's directly under Villa Park but the closure of the brewery and many local factories in the early eighties led to a rise in the water table which in turn buggered the pitch up.

[Percy McCarthy]

Fucking Thatcher again!