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Offline Richard Richard

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Re: Tottenham Hotspur v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #285 on: October 08, 2012, 04:30:10 PM »
I'm a bit uneasy with how comfortable people are about this defeat to be honest.

Im comfortable with it because we could easily have drawn or even won that game if we'd taken our chances were as last season was just a surrender.

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Re: Tottenham Hotspur v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #286 on: October 08, 2012, 04:54:24 PM »
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5 points from the opening 7 games is a terrible start.


after 7 games last season we had 8 points....

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Re: Tottenham Hotspur v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #287 on: October 08, 2012, 04:58:44 PM »
After 7 games under SGT1 we had 6 points and Beelzebub had just smacked in a hat-trick at Villa Park. We finished second. It's way too early to be reaching for the razor blades, but some just prefer to do that.

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Re: Tottenham Hotspur v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #288 on: October 08, 2012, 05:05:50 PM »
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It's way too early to be reaching for the razor blades, but some just prefer to do that.


Yep, and some people seem to be trying to convince themselves that we're having a fantastic start to the season.

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Re: Tottenham Hotspur v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #289 on: October 08, 2012, 05:08:45 PM »
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5 points from the opening 7 games is a terrible start.


after 7 games last season we had 8 points....
I make it 11 points and unbeaten in the league after 7 games 5 draws and 2 wins. We were mostly awful though and got progressively worse.
« Last Edit: October 08, 2012, 05:12:00 PM by LamboAlways »

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Re: Tottenham Hotspur v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #290 on: October 08, 2012, 05:12:34 PM »
You always got the impression that they were waiting to score, and that we were waiting for them to score.

I didn't , I thought we were in with as much chance of them until they scored, after the goal we fell away and spurs took control but we were not bad until then- if benteke had taken a chance we may have gone on to win so certainly not all doom and gloom.

Vlaar impressed as did the back four on the whole , albrighton is not up to it at this level I fear and not sure Delphi is either, gabby was lively and benteke is talented but raw- we need a quality experienced midfielder in January to help out the younger lads ad I'd like to see Westwood brought into the side at fulham along with bent .

The thing is, they missed chances too before they scored. But, for some reason, missing them wasn't a turning point for them. They kept plugging away until they scored. If I'm being totally honest with myself, even though we had chances, I didn't think we looked like putting any of them away. And we didn't. And somehow, not putting them away affected us so much that we crumpled. We know that we're going to concede away from home, we usually do, so it was just a matter of time before we did. And we did.

I don't take any pleasure in saying that, but I'm not going to blind myself to the reality of it.   

Offline PeterWithesShin

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Re: Tottenham Hotspur v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #291 on: October 08, 2012, 05:17:53 PM »
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It's way too early to be reaching for the razor blades, but some just prefer to do that.


Yep, and some people seem to be trying to convince themselves that we're having a fantastic start to the season.


I haven't seen anyone say we've had a fantastic start. I'd be interested in you showing where anyone has said that.

Offline Chico Hamilton III

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Re: Tottenham Hotspur v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #292 on: October 08, 2012, 05:24:29 PM »
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I haven't seen anyone say we've had a fantastic start. I'd be interested in you showing where anyone has said that
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Calm down you tart, I was using the technique of exaggeration to make my point. Like you were when you said I was reaching for razor blades.

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Re: Tottenham Hotspur v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #293 on: October 08, 2012, 05:29:28 PM »
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I haven't seen anyone say we've had a fantastic start. I'd be interested in you showing where anyone has said that
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Calm down you tart, I was using the technique of exaggeration to make my point. Like you were when you said I was reaching for razor blades.

I never said you were, I said people were. If I wanted to aim it at you i'd have quoted you, you tart.

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Re: Tottenham Hotspur v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #294 on: October 08, 2012, 05:40:09 PM »
all the things that were said at the beginning of the season about this new team, young boys learning on the job and peaks and troughs etc etc are coming totally true, but we must have some bollocks and let lambert get on with remodelling the way our club performs. if the football was shit and the results were not there i would be more concerned but we are not far away!

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Re: Tottenham Hotspur v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #295 on: October 08, 2012, 05:41:22 PM »
all the things that were said at the beginning of the season about this new team, young boys learning on the job and peaks and troughs etc etc are coming totally true, but we must have some bollocks and let lambert get on with remodelling the way our club performs. if the football was shit and the results were not there i would be more concerned but we are not far away!

*nods furiously*

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Re: Tottenham Hotspur v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #296 on: October 08, 2012, 06:30:26 PM »
One win in seven says there have been rather more troughs than peaks so far.

Offline PeterWithesShin

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Re: Tottenham Hotspur v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #297 on: October 08, 2012, 06:40:07 PM »
One win in seven says there have been rather more troughs than peaks so far.

Our last 7 games W3 D2 L2 says the troughs and peaks are pretty even. Basic stats over a short time frame can be used to show pretty much what you want them to show.
« Last Edit: October 08, 2012, 07:00:47 PM by PeterWithesShin »

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Re: Tottenham Hotspur v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #298 on: October 08, 2012, 07:22:15 PM »
One win in seven says there have been rather more troughs than peaks so far.

Our last 7 games W3 D2 L2 says the troughs and peaks are pretty even. Basic stats over a short time frame can be used to show pretty much what you want them to show.

Not in the league they don't, which is rather obviously what I was talking about with the one win in seven stat. 

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Re: Tottenham Hotspur v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #299 on: October 08, 2012, 07:31:47 PM »
You prefer the negative of 1 win in 7 in the league. I prefer the more positive of 2 defeats in our last 7. We're both right and neither stat proves anything as 7 games is too small a sample. Which all points to waiting a while for a bigger sample of games before deciding things are fine or shit when potential variables will also be less of a factor.

 


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