Tottenham Hotspur v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

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To feel better about this game all I have to do is to remember the same fixture last year. Last year I was pissed off for days after this fixture - I've never been like that, normally I'm ok after a few hours even in the worst of circumstances. It wasn't because Spurs had beaten us but because there was absolutely no belief that we could get something. Hutton was playing right midfield, Heskey on the left, Spurs had all the possession and it was quite clear that the team had been sent out with an inferiority complex.

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There's a lot of truth in what has been said; same result as last year and same pickle as far as results go, but there is at least hope.

Tottenham away last season was the first time I awoke to the realisation that we were propper fucked.

I didn't get pinged for speeding coming back this time either, which is always a bonus.

[pauliewalnuts]

To feel better about this game all I have to do is to remember the same fixture last year. Last year I was pissed off for days after this fixture - I've never been like that, normally I'm ok after a few hours even in the worst of circumstances. It wasn't because Spurs had beaten us but because there was absolutely no belief that we could get something. Hutton was playing right midfield, Heskey on the left, Spurs had all the possession and it was quite clear that the team had been sent out with an inferiority complex.

Quite right.

Two beacons of hope.

This fixture, last season, we were beaten before we got on the coach, and put together the most embarassing, laughably negative performance I have seen from a Villa side in years. Not just shit, but utterly unambitious, it was humiliating to watch.

The season before last, we went to Man City in a cup, and not only did we put up a limp performance, given the attitude of the manager at the time, I would not be at all surprised if it turned out we'd written them a letter shortly after, apologising for wasting their time.

This season, we've gone to Man City, full of self belief, and won, and we've just been to Spurs and at least tried to win the game, and put in something that could be called a performance.

Nobody is deluding themselves that we don't need to win games soon - we do. it is also pretty obvious to most of us where we need more bodies, and how much we need them.

In the meantime, though, it is going to be a season of really volatile ups and downs. We'll have more results like Southampton, and we'll have more Swanseas, too.

The club has been an absolute shambles in many ways for over two years now. That isn't going to get fixed in a hurry. Panicking, saying we're "relegation certainties" as someone did two weeks ago, is not going to help.

The sooner we accept that this season is going to be a strange one, and that that also means losing matches, then it's going to be a lot more fun when we actually start winning a few.

[pedro25]

To feel better about this game all I have to do is to remember the same fixture last year. Last year I was pissed off for days after this fixture - I've never been like that, normally I'm ok after a few hours even in the worst of circumstances. It wasn't because Spurs had beaten us but because there was absolutely no belief that we could get something. Hutton was playing right midfield, Heskey on the left, Spurs had all the possession and it was quite clear that the team had been sent out with an inferiority complex.

Agree, although leaving out Bannan, Bent and N'Zogbia for more industrious players did give me a very slight feeling of deja vu.  We need more creativity and a greater cutting edge still so i think these 3 and Ireland must feature prominently.

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I should also add that Gareth Bale is a diving ******.

He should be banned the cheating wanker. I could have driven a car through the gap between him and Guzan and the chimp faced cheating bastard wasn't even booked.

At least Suarez and Young have the decency to fall into defenders and goalkeepers.

[not3bad]

Some people seem to be confusing "no disgrace in losing to Spurs" with "we can't expect to win at Spurs".  TSM personified the latter statement and his "no point in trying, limit the damage" tactics and team selections reflected it.   Lambert's tactics and selections are a very far cry from that. 

Exactly. I haven't seen any of yesterday's match but from the gist of this thread and comments from my brother who did attend it would appear that we were actually in the game which is more than you can say about the debacle last season.

We were a good match for them for an hour.

[Jimbo]

You always got the impression that they were waiting to score, and that we were waiting for them to score.

[PeterWithesShin]

You always got the impression that they were waiting to score, and that we were waiting for them to score.

I didn't.

[SW9-VILLA]

McLeish got more out of a much more limited squad.

Trolling?

Put the bottle down mate and get a grip.

[eastie]

You always got the impression that they were waiting to score, and that we were waiting for them to score.

I didn't , I thought we were in with as much chance of them until they scored, after the goal we fell away and spurs took control but we were not bad until then- if benteke had taken a chance we may have gone on to win so certainly not all doom and gloom.

Vlaar impressed as did the back four on the whole , albrighton is not up to it at this level I fear and not sure Delphi is either, gabby was lively and benteke is talented but raw- we need a quality experienced midfielder in January to help out the younger lads ad I'd like to see Westwood brought into the side at fulham along with bent .

[tomd2103]

We've also got to remember that Lambert is still a fairly inexperienced manager, especially in terms of top flight football.  He is still learning at this level, and is going to make mistakes and bad decisions from time to time as well.   

[Boz]

It's encouraging to see many positive posts after Saturday's result. Much better than some of those during the match.

No one would deny we need at least a couple of results in our favour before November, but we will surely be in mid table come next April as this side settles down, but a couple of decent signings in January would be welcome.

I just hope however, that PL and DB can sort things out, as we badly need someone to stick the ball in the net. I think Benteke will come good, but it might be later rather than sooner and I don't fancy going into the New Year in the bottom four.

[RunRickyRun]

We matched them for the first 60 minutes, despite them fielding a team which not one of our players would get into. They even resorted to blatant cheating!

The game was lost when Benteke missed the golden chance. Had that gone in, we may have achieved a positive result.

All in all it was an enjoyable game (apart from the disgusting cheating already mentioned).

[silhillvilla]

I'm a bit uneasy with how comfortable people are about this defeat to be honest.
The last couple of years has lowered expectations so much now that we could easily sleep walk into major trouble.
5 points from the opening 7 games is a terrible start.

[eastie]

I'm a bit uneasy with how comfortable people are about this defeat to be honest.
The last couple of years has lowered expectations so much now that we could easily sleep walk into major trouble.
5 points from the opening 7 games is a terrible start.

Don' t worry too much- we have played some nice football and there are positives, the team will improve and gel as the season goes along and I feel we will progress.

The games against Newcastle , Swansea and man city have given me plenty of hope since the opening 2 defeats.