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Author Topic: Tottenham Hotspur v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread  (Read 68472 times)

Offline caster troy

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Re: Tottenham Hotspur v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #240 on: October 08, 2012, 08:44:34 AM »
Not sure if this has been mentioned already but weren't we in a similar position under O'Neill for a while? Bottom 6 at Christmas?

You can see what he's trying to do. We are playing better football and hopefully the goals and confidence will come. How long did it take Moyes to turn Everton around? You have to believe it'll get better or you may as well go and live in a cave till June.

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Re: Tottenham Hotspur v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #241 on: October 08, 2012, 08:57:37 AM »
I'd love to live in a cave. I could decorate it with murals of Gareth Bale being kicked to death

Offline PaulTheVillan

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Re: Tottenham Hotspur v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #242 on: October 08, 2012, 08:59:04 AM »
Thought we were good first half.

As soon as Benteke missed that header I knew it would cost us.


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Re: Tottenham Hotspur v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #243 on: October 08, 2012, 10:17:29 AM »
Funny (not in a ha ha way) that, according to the Beeb today, the FA are likely to look at the Suarez dive and the Van Persie elbow incidents but not the Bale dive.  What's the difference between Suarez's dive and Bale's? Other than the fact that Dame Lawro described Suarez as embarrassing and Bale as funny.  Maybe Guzan should have had a go at the linesman to bring it to the ref's attention more

Offline silhillvilla

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Re: Tottenham Hotspur v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #244 on: October 08, 2012, 10:21:29 AM »
Gareth Bale is untouchable whereas Louis Suarez is public enemy Nr 1, therein lieth the difference.

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Re: Tottenham Hotspur v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #245 on: October 08, 2012, 10:29:30 AM »
Not sure if this has been mentioned already but weren't we in a similar position under O'Neill for a while? Bottom 6 at Christmas?

You can see what he's trying to do. We are playing better football and hopefully the goals and confidence will come. How long did it take Moyes to turn Everton around? You have to believe it'll get better or you may as well go and live in a cave till June.

If you mean his first season, weren't we unbeaten until something like the 11th game?

Losing at Spurs is no great blow to our season as we aren't good enough to say we should be expecting anything there.  However, the same can't be said for the likes of West Ham or Southampton. 

As long as we're out of the relegation places, which we are and also one win away from a comfortable midtable position, we need to give the manager time to get everything sorted.

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Re: Tottenham Hotspur v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #246 on: October 08, 2012, 10:32:19 AM »
Most of which were draws, If I remember correctly.

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Re: Tottenham Hotspur v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #247 on: October 08, 2012, 10:32:49 AM »
We were well and truely in the shit with DOL in his first season. I think we slipped into the bottom 3 at the start of december after a 2-1 loss at Spurs.

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Re: Tottenham Hotspur v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #248 on: October 08, 2012, 10:36:12 AM »
Whilst i can see why he tried Benteke and Gabby again, at the end of the day if we're going to get anything out of games we need to start our best finisher. Bent would have put away one of those two chances Benteke had and we might have got something out of the game. He's not going to come off the bench and rescue us every week. Let's try Benteke and Bent for the Norwich game and have Gabby's pace for the last half hour.

The Bale dive was outrageous, he could have easily have got Guzan sent off and if Phil Dowd had been the ref it might have happened. Not much of a mention of it in today's papers mind. Mind you playing for Tottenham helps.


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Re: Tottenham Hotspur v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #249 on: October 08, 2012, 11:01:32 AM »
The second goal came at the worst possible time because the subsitutes had just come on and we were reorganising.  Having said that, unlike last week against West Brom, the subs made no difference and the game petered out with Spurs in control.  Going down to 10 men didn't help, obviously, particularly given the seriousness of Joe Bennett's injury.  Does anyone know the latest on this?

Noticed that Lambert is saying his decision to start with Bent as a sub was purely tactical.

I agree with those who say we shouldn't panic yet.  I said a couple of days ago that it might not be until December that this team gels properly and Spurs are on fire right now.  But we do need a win.

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Re: Tottenham Hotspur v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #250 on: October 08, 2012, 11:07:26 AM »
Joe Bennett just has a gash and should be fine for Fulham away.

I think the substitutions were a big factor in their second goal. We had Benteke, Bent, N'Zogbia, Holman and Agbonlahor on at the same time and it was too much of a change. Really aggressive though - we wouldn't have seen that last season!

I can forgive him for a tactical mistake like that though. I thought his tactics of matching Spurs' shape worked really for about the first 60 minutes.

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Re: Tottenham Hotspur v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #251 on: October 08, 2012, 11:19:51 AM »
Funny (not in a ha ha way) that, according to the Beeb today, the FA are likely to look at the Suarez dive and the Van Persie elbow incidents but not the Bale dive.  What's the difference between Suarez's dive and Bale's? Other than the fact that Dame Lawro described Suarez as embarrassing and Bale as funny. 

Think the main difference was that Suarez was in the penalty area and so in a dangerous position.

Offline Villafirst

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Re: Tottenham Hotspur v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #252 on: October 08, 2012, 11:29:55 AM »
Another depressingly predictable defeat. Sorry, but I think this is still a continuation of the gradual decline since MON left. A few seasons ago I'd expect to us to win at White Hart Lane and we often did, but Spurs and indeed Everton are streets ahead of us now, when we were slightly above or at least on a par with them. Their aspirations are vastly different to ours now - we've had our worst start since 1986-87 and we all know how that season ended up. I just think we haven't enough guile and quality, yes, you can graft, chase and harry the opposition, but ultimately you need that bit extra class. Hope I'm wrong, but I fear for us this season.

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Re: Tottenham Hotspur v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #253 on: October 08, 2012, 11:34:38 AM »
A few seasons ago I'd expect to us to win at White Hart Lane and we often did,

Often?

Once in 12 seasons.

Offline Villafirst

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Re: Tottenham Hotspur v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #254 on: October 08, 2012, 11:48:19 AM »
A few seasons ago I'd expect to us to win at White Hart Lane and we often did,

Often?

Once in 12 seasons.

Ok, how often did we lose at WHL under MON? The difference is I'd EXPECT us to beat them in those days and they rarely troubled us at Villa Park, whereas now I don't expect us to beat them - they're way ahead of us now and if you fail to see that then you're just burying your head in the sand

 


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