Tottenham Hotspur v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[PeterWithesShin]

If buying players form the lower league and lesser known foreign players doesn't work and will only lead to relegation, I wish someone would tell the likes of Newcastle, Everton and Albion.

Cabaye, Tiote and Ben Arfa were hardly barely known when they signed them. Similarly Ba and Cisse.

Neither then were  Vlaar, Benteke, Holmann, KEA.

[PaulWinch again]

I'm happy that Bennett isn't badly injured. He has been impressive.

Yes good news.

[mrastonvilla]

I'd add QPR, southampton and maybe even Sunderland and Stoke to that list

[FrankyH]

"We pick ourselves up and go again"

Is anybody else getting a bit sick of hearing that?

It's a young team , I think Lambert is careful  not to be overly critical.I don't want to hear him say that every other week, but it could be worse. Remember O'Leary's can't compete with the likes of...I am only playing the kids because that's all we have got left in this squad.

[onje_villa]

I'd add QPR, southampton and maybe even Sunderland and Stoke to that list

OK maybe but Southampton have already stuffed us!
I think perhaps Lambert had added a good young squad and perhaps we'll see one or two better quality players in January which will help boost us up the table.

[Irish villain]

I think another problem we face with the long-term plan is that there seem to be very few out and out shit teams this year. I'd put Reading and Wigan in that bracket and probably Norwich at this rate but not sure we'll be able to rely upon that like we did last year.

It's so shit that we have to think like this yet again. It has been quite a prolonged dismal spell. Other shit years like 1994/95 or even the mid noughties always seemed to be unacceptable exceptions to the general rule of being villa.

 We need to find that mentality again, we're too good and to proud a club for this crap of trying to get to forty points and thinking of possible teams that are worse than us.

[dave.woodhall]

I think another problem we face with the long-term plan is that there seem to be very few out and out shit teams this year. I'd put Reading and Wigan in that bracket and probably Norwich at this rate but not sure we'll be able to rely upon that like we did last year.

It's so shit that we have to think like this yet again. It has been quite a prolonged dismal spell. Other shit years like 1994/95 or even the mid noughties always seemed to be unacceptable exceptions to the general rule of being villa.

 We need to find that mentality again, we're too good and to proud a club for this crap.

Yes, we've finished in the bottom half for one year in a row.

[pauliewalnuts]

If buying players form the lower league and lesser known foreign players doesn't work and will only lead to relegation, I wish someone would tell the likes of Newcastle, Everton and Albion.

Cabaye, Tiote and Ben Arfa were hardly barely known when they signed them. Similarly Ba and Cisse.

Neither then were  Vlaar, Benteke, Holmann, KEA.

Benteke is a kid, mind.

We look short of experienced heads, and to continue in that fashion strikes me as dangerous. If you want to make a comparison with Newcastle, I can't think of any inexperienced lower league players who went straight into their team.

Our squad looked incredibly weak at the end of last season, and we haven't added enough experience to it.

Dont get me wrong, Westwood, Benteke, Lowton, Bowery and Bennett might all turn out to be great buys.it is relying on them to do so that concerns me a bit, which is why I don't really get it when people tout having a squad of "young and hungry players" as a positive.

[onje_villa]

I think another problem we face with the long-term plan is that there seem to be very few out and out shit teams this year. I'd put Reading and Wigan in that bracket and probably Norwich at this rate but not sure we'll be able to rely upon that like we did last year.

It's so shit that we have to think like this yet again. It has been quite a prolonged dismal spell. Other shit years like 1994/95 or even the mid noughties always seemed to be unacceptable exceptions to the general rule of being villa.

 We need to find that mentality again, we're too good and to proud a club for this crap.

Yes, we've finished in the bottom half for one year in a row.

Some of our fans seem to think that's where we belong at the moment.

[JJ-AV]

[brian green]

That's right.   He should not trot out some hackneyed old cliche like "pick ourselves up and go again".   What we need is some fresh thinking like "we must all go home and hide under the stairs" or "we must go somewhere expensive and have a good fight".  Lambert's use of language is dull, dull, dull.  No wonder we are in deep shit.

[Legion]

Cheat.

Ouch!

[Irish villain]

I think another problem we face with the long-term plan is that there seem to be very few out and out shit teams this year. I'd put Reading and Wigan in that bracket and probably Norwich at this rate but not sure we'll be able to rely upon that like we did last year.

It's so shit that we have to think like this yet again. It has been quite a prolonged dismal spell. Other shit years like 1994/95 or even the mid noughties always seemed to be unacceptable exceptions to the general rule of being villa.

 We need to find that mentality again, we're too good and to proud a club for this crap.

Yes, we've finished in the bottom half for one year in a row.

Psychologically we were in a relegation scrap for the whole of 2010/11. We jumped three or four places at the end of the season and were on 42 points with two games remaining! Wigan finished 16th on 42 points.

[PeterWithesShin]

If buying players form the lower league and lesser known foreign players doesn't work and will only lead to relegation, I wish someone would tell the likes of Newcastle, Everton and Albion.

Cabaye, Tiote and Ben Arfa were hardly barely known when they signed them. Similarly Ba and Cisse.

Neither then were  Vlaar, Benteke, Holmann, KEA.

Benteke is a kid, mind.

We look short of experienced heads, and to continue in that fashion strikes me as dangerous. If you want to make a comparison with Newcastle, I can't think of any inexperienced lower league players who went straight into their team.

Our squad looked incredibly weak at the end of last season, and we haven't added enough experience to it.

Dont get me wrong, Westwood, Benteke, Lowton, Bowery and Bennett might all turn out to be great buys.it is relying on them to do so that concerns me a bit, which is why I don't really get it when people tout having a squad of "young and hungry players" as a positive.

He is, but every player was a kid once. We tried the buy supposedly proven players route and it didn't get us very far. A lot of people would have said "who?" with some of those Newcastle players, I don't remember many people saying what a great signing Tiote, Cabaye, Cisse were at the time.

And Everton and Albion are both currently in the top 6 with a number of what were unknown and lower league players. Both currently have the best sides i've seen them have for 20+ years. It can work but requires some patience not wrist slashing after 7 games.

[dave.woodhall]

I think another problem we face with the long-term plan is that there seem to be very few out and out shit teams this year. I'd put Reading and Wigan in that bracket and probably Norwich at this rate but not sure we'll be able to rely upon that like we did last year.

It's so shit that we have to think like this yet again. It has been quite a prolonged dismal spell. Other shit years like 1994/95 or even the mid noughties always seemed to be unacceptable exceptions to the general rule of being villa.

 We need to find that mentality again, we're too good and to proud a club for this crap.

Yes, we've finished in the bottom half for one year in a row.

Psychologically we were in a relegation scrap for the whole of 2010/11. We jumped three or four places at the end of the season and were on 42 points with two games remaining! Wigan finished 16th on 42 points.

I couldn't care less what Wigan were or how many points they got. We've finished in the bottom half once during this "prolonged dismal spell." How you would have coped during some of the genuinely bad periods in our history I dread to think.