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Online pauliewalnuts

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Re: More than just one game
« Reply #45 on: September 20, 2012, 12:44:40 AM »
This bit:

We are now having the season that we should have had two years ago. Substantial rebuild on top of substantial re-think as to the way we do things and the way we play.

and this:

It says much for O'Neills legacy that for all his transfer dealing, barely two years after his departure not a single one of his outfield signings is featuring in the starting XI and of the four that remain at the club, Warnock and Dunne would have long since gone if a suitable home could have been found.

Are the two most spot-on things I've read on here in a long, long time.

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Re: More than just one game
« Reply #46 on: September 20, 2012, 07:49:05 AM »
This bit:

We are now having the season that we should have had two years ago. Substantial rebuild on top of substantial re-think as to the way we do things and the way we play.

and this:

It says much for O'Neills legacy that for all his transfer dealing, barely two years after his departure not a single one of his outfield signings is featuring in the starting XI and of the four that remain at the club, Warnock and Dunne would have long since gone if a suitable home could have been found.

Are the two most spot-on things I've read on here in a long, long time.

Agree 100%

One day there will be an Emporers new clothes moment with MON and the world will see his limitations
It seems it has not took the Mackems long to suss it out

Offline Breezeblock

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Re: More than just one game
« Reply #47 on: September 20, 2012, 08:02:56 AM »
This bit:

We are now having the season that we should have had two years ago. Substantial rebuild on top of substantial re-think as to the way we do things and the way we play.

and this:

It says much for O'Neills legacy that for all his transfer dealing, barely two years after his departure not a single one of his outfield signings is featuring in the starting XI and of the four that remain at the club, Warnock and Dunne would have long since gone if a suitable home could have been found.

Are the two most spot-on things I've read on here in a long, long time.
Memory could be playing tricks but didn't Pubehead sign Eric Licaj while on a pre-season trip in the States? IIRC he had a broken leg at the time.

Offline Matt Collins

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Re: More than just one game
« Reply #48 on: September 20, 2012, 08:36:21 AM »
In fairness to mon, I think you can say he made a small number of excellent signings (young, Milner, downing, Carew, friedel, petrov) and then most of the rest were really bad value for money.

All the profit we made when some of those good signings left was wiped out by the losses / need for replacing the others.

I'm a bit concerned people are getting ahead of themselves after 2 games. Both were really encouraging performances and the Swansea game was the most enjoyable villa game I've seen in bloody ages.

But there's still a lot to do. Everton utterly out classed us. And our passing at high tempo can still be pretty sloppy. Ireland and n'zogbia will, you would think, new to step up quite significantly if we're to finish top ten. We're light on creativity otherwise. In the absence of that, I think bannan has to play. He's created quite a few good chances with crosses and set pieces and the tucked in role on the left of midfield is his perfect position.

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Re: More than just one game
« Reply #49 on: September 20, 2012, 08:46:34 AM »
I can't see N'Zogbia being a Villa player next season unless there is an amazing turnaround in him. It was ironic that he replaced the hardest working player on the pitch last Saturday. Personally i thought Bannan just edged Holman as man of the match against Swansea and has more than earnt his shirt.

Offline villan from luton

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Re: More than just one game
« Reply #50 on: September 20, 2012, 08:50:39 AM »
I can't see N'Zogbia being a Villa player next season unless there is an amazing turnaround in him. It was ironic that he replaced the hardest working player on the pitch last Saturday. Personally i thought Bannan just edged Holman as man of the match against Swansea and has more than earnt his shirt.

The only reason you think Bannan was MOTM is that you were pist QB, you hardly remembered the score when I was speaking to you

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Re: More than just one game
« Reply #51 on: September 20, 2012, 09:01:16 AM »
I can't see N'Zogbia being a Villa player next season unless there is an amazing turnaround in him. It was ironic that he replaced the hardest working player on the pitch last Saturday. Personally i thought Bannan just edged Holman as man of the match against Swansea and has more than earnt his shirt.


I was drunk on the atmosphere, plus it's been a bloody long time since i've seen a Villa side leading for so long in a game without once thinking we weren't gonna win. So in summary, up yours.

The only reason you think Bannan was MOTM is that you were pist QB, you hardly remembered the score when I was speaking to you

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Re: More than just one game
« Reply #52 on: September 20, 2012, 09:07:05 AM »
I can't see N'Zogbia being a Villa player next season unless there is an amazing turnaround in him. It was ironic that he replaced the hardest working player on the pitch last Saturday. Personally i thought Bannan just edged Holman as man of the match against Swansea and has more than earnt his shirt.


I was drunk on the atmosphere, plus it's been a bloody long time since i've seen a Villa side leading for so long in a game without once thinking we weren't gonna win. So in summary, up yours.

The only reason you think Bannan was MOTM is that you were pist QB, you hardly remembered the score when I was speaking to you

Nothing to do with the pints before the game then, just drunk on the atmosphere lol. You admitted you had fallen asleep during the game, was the atmosphere that good?

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Re: More than just one game
« Reply #53 on: September 20, 2012, 09:37:52 AM »
This bit:

We are now having the season that we should have had two years ago. Substantial rebuild on top of substantial re-think as to the way we do things and the way we play.

and this:

It says much for O'Neills legacy that for all his transfer dealing, barely two years after his departure not a single one of his outfield signings is featuring in the starting XI and of the four that remain at the club, Warnock and Dunne would have long since gone if a suitable home could have been found.

Are the two most spot-on things I've read on here in a long, long time.
Memory could be playing tricks but didn't Pubehead sign Eric Licaj while on a pre-season trip in the States? IIRC he had a broken leg at the time.

We signed Lichaj and Weimann in the summer of 2007 so MoN deserves credit for both of them.  That's the most frustrating thing.  He generally did well when he bought youngsters, it was the stupid signings of 'experienced pros' that screwed him and showed his limitations.  The only young player he got massively wrong was Davies.

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Re: More than just one game
« Reply #54 on: September 20, 2012, 09:43:31 AM »
This bit:

We are now having the season that we should have had two years ago. Substantial rebuild on top of substantial re-think as to the way we do things and the way we play.

and this:

It says much for O'Neills legacy that for all his transfer dealing, barely two years after his departure not a single one of his outfield signings is featuring in the starting XI and of the four that remain at the club, Warnock and Dunne would have long since gone if a suitable home could have been found.

Are the two most spot-on things I've read on here in a long, long time.
Memory could be playing tricks but didn't Pubehead sign Eric Licaj while on a pre-season trip in the States? IIRC he had a broken leg at the time.

We signed Lichaj and Weimann in the summer of 2007 so MoN deserves credit for both of them.  That's the most frustrating thing.  He generally did well when he bought youngsters, it was the stupid signings of 'experienced pros' that screwed him and showed his limitations.  The only young player he got massively wrong was Davies.

Didn't MON (originally) sign Guzan?

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Re: More than just one game
« Reply #55 on: September 20, 2012, 10:01:59 AM »
This bit:

We are now having the season that we should have had two years ago. Substantial rebuild on top of substantial re-think as to the way we do things and the way we play.

and this:

It says much for O'Neills legacy that for all his transfer dealing, barely two years after his departure not a single one of his outfield signings is featuring in the starting XI and of the four that remain at the club, Warnock and Dunne would have long since gone if a suitable home could have been found.

Are the two most spot-on things I've read on here in a long, long time.
Memory could be playing tricks but didn't Pubehead sign Eric Licaj while on a pre-season trip in the States? IIRC he had a broken leg at the time.

We signed Lichaj and Weimann in the summer of 2007 so MoN deserves credit for both of them.  That's the most frustrating thing.  He generally did well when he bought youngsters, it was the stupid signings of 'experienced pros' that screwed him and showed his limitations.  The only young player he got massively wrong was Davies.


Did he get Davies massively wrong? I'm not so sure about that. Davies was superb alongside Laursen, was on the verge of the England squad and looked a real class act until he did his achilles and was out for 6 months. Once he came back in he got back to playing at a high standard again then did his shoulder. By the time he regained fitness we'd got Collins and Dunne and it doesn't matter what anyone thinks of them now, that season defensively we were one of the best in the league. IMO Davies was simply unlucky to get two long term injuries and without them would have been regarded as a good signing.

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Re: More than just one game
« Reply #56 on: September 20, 2012, 10:08:26 AM »
Of course he got Davis massively wrong as he was a £9 million player who is now plying his trade in the Championship.  The injuries didn't help but prior to them there were by his own admission those 'pub player' games. 

Offline QBVILLA

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Re: More than just one game
« Reply #57 on: September 20, 2012, 10:12:41 AM »
Of course he got Davis massively wrong as he was a £9 million player who is now plying his trade in the Championship.  The injuries didn't help but prior to them there were by his own admission those 'pub player' games. 

That was his debut v Leicester in the league cup. He took a lot of stick for that, but it was refreshing to hear a player not make excuses about a terrible performance. In the end it's impossible to argue he was a success but I genuinely believe that he was unlucky with both the timing and the length of his injuries.

Offline paul_e

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Re: More than just one game
« Reply #58 on: September 20, 2012, 10:20:38 AM »
Bad luck doesn't stop a signing being a failure though (I actually agree with you, I think things could've turned out much better for him).  Signed for 9m, sold for less than 2m if I remember rightly and currently playing a second season in the championship with no reports of interest from the premier league suggests we overpaid massively.

Offline not3bad

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Re: More than just one game
« Reply #59 on: September 20, 2012, 10:28:12 AM »
currently playing a second season in the championship with no reports of interest from the premier league suggests we overpaid massively.

He was linked with moves to Southampton, Norwich and QPR over the summer...

 


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