I may be wrong but my beer addled memory is telling me that it all started going wrong when he switched from a tracksuit to a proper suit on matchdays.
Quote from: Can Bent Be Bettered!?!? on September 08, 2012, 09:06:25 PMQuote from: ktvillan on September 08, 2012, 03:04:45 PMQuote from: Can Bent Be Bettered!?!? on September 08, 2012, 11:27:03 AMQuote from: ktvillan on September 08, 2012, 11:25:09 AMI'd waited 35 years, from the age of 5, for Villa to get to an FA Cup final. And when we did, we didn't even try. Whatever good stuff Gregory did is totally undermined by that one disgraceful performance. To say we didn't try is wrong. You don't get to an FA Cup Final and not try. It'd be much more apt to just say we were shit.I disagree. We just didn't look interested in taking the game to Chelsea, it was like watching a McLeish team just trying to limit the damage. Ok...but you're wrong. No player doesn't try in a FA Cup final. To suggest otherwise seems a bit silly.I'm talking about as a team, tactically - it looked very much like we were set up not to lose rather than to try to win. Much Like McLeish did against various teams last season. Nice debating skills by the way. "you're wrong" wins it every time.
Quote from: ktvillan on September 08, 2012, 03:04:45 PMQuote from: Can Bent Be Bettered!?!? on September 08, 2012, 11:27:03 AMQuote from: ktvillan on September 08, 2012, 11:25:09 AMI'd waited 35 years, from the age of 5, for Villa to get to an FA Cup final. And when we did, we didn't even try. Whatever good stuff Gregory did is totally undermined by that one disgraceful performance. To say we didn't try is wrong. You don't get to an FA Cup Final and not try. It'd be much more apt to just say we were shit.I disagree. We just didn't look interested in taking the game to Chelsea, it was like watching a McLeish team just trying to limit the damage. Ok...but you're wrong. No player doesn't try in a FA Cup final. To suggest otherwise seems a bit silly.
Quote from: Can Bent Be Bettered!?!? on September 08, 2012, 11:27:03 AMQuote from: ktvillan on September 08, 2012, 11:25:09 AMI'd waited 35 years, from the age of 5, for Villa to get to an FA Cup final. And when we did, we didn't even try. Whatever good stuff Gregory did is totally undermined by that one disgraceful performance. To say we didn't try is wrong. You don't get to an FA Cup Final and not try. It'd be much more apt to just say we were shit.I disagree. We just didn't look interested in taking the game to Chelsea, it was like watching a McLeish team just trying to limit the damage.
Quote from: ktvillan on September 08, 2012, 11:25:09 AMI'd waited 35 years, from the age of 5, for Villa to get to an FA Cup final. And when we did, we didn't even try. Whatever good stuff Gregory did is totally undermined by that one disgraceful performance. To say we didn't try is wrong. You don't get to an FA Cup Final and not try. It'd be much more apt to just say we were shit.
I'd waited 35 years, from the age of 5, for Villa to get to an FA Cup final. And when we did, we didn't even try. Whatever good stuff Gregory did is totally undermined by that one disgraceful performance.
I think the point about the surrender in the Cup Final is valid and his time here will allways be tainted by that.If we had guven it a go and got beat then I think most of us would have said OK fair enough. But the tactics on the day were a disgrace.
Quote from: hawkeye on September 10, 2012, 11:25:18 PMI think the point about the surrender in the Cup Final is valid and his time here will allways be tainted by that.If we had guven it a go and got beat then I think most of us would have said OK fair enough. But the tactics on the day were a disgrace.And if we'd scraped a scrappy 1-0 win, everybody would have been ecstatic.
I just remember it as a poor game, that was settled by a David James error in goal.