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Offline seanthevillan

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Those quotes from Gay read like he was told there was nothing he'd get banned for in whatever he was given.  The cynic will suggest he should have known that means they don't test for it well, the naive will think he took it to mean it was legal.

Knowing which is correct requires you to know who gave him it and what they told him.  Will be interesting to hear how this pans out.

Haven't WADA said/legislated that athletes are 100% responsible for whatever is found in their bodies? Thats why I'm always a bit cynical/wary of accepting the old 'my coach/doctor/whoever said take this and I trusted them' - because they all know the risks involved.

And this is how relaxed Usain Bolt is - celebrating his World Championships victory in Berlin:


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Another Jamaican fails drug test.

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There's a great book called Bounce which looks at the reasons why certain athletes/people excel at sport/life. 

There's a chapter in the book where he talks about the systematic use of steroids in East Germany.  Unfortunately I can only find a wiki summary but the story therein of Heidi/Andreas Kreiger is all you need to know about why performance enhancing drugs should never be used. 

I wish someone would make a documentary (or film) on the him/her.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andreas_Krieger

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Its a pity because Yohan blake may well be injured. I just don't believe him, or any jamaican sprinter. Granted Usain Bolt may be a freak of nature but I still doubt it.

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There's a great book called Bounce which looks at the reasons why certain athletes/people excel at sport/life. 

There's a chapter in the book where he talks about the systematic use of steroids in East Germany.  Unfortunately I can only find a wiki summary but the story therein of Heidi/Andreas Kreiger is all you need to know about why performance enhancing drugs should never be used. 

I wish someone would make a documentary (or film) on the him/her.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andreas_Krieger

Brilliant documentary on East Germany here, with an interview about Andreas Krieger:

http://youtu.be/3dFdKjhgt3k

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The volte-face in Dodgeball is going to be an uncomfortable watch now, that's for sure. They should film an insert with Vince Vaughn saying "We may be average, but at least we're clean, you donkey-fuck."

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A Jamaican footballer failed a drugs test following a World Cup qualifier against Honduras on 11 June.
It is a further blow to sport in the country after sprinters Asafa Powell and Sherone Simpson tested positive for the banned stimulant oxilofrine last month.

The Jamaican Football Federation (JFF) has confirmed it had been informed by Fifa of the positive result.
An internal investigation has been opened by the JFF.

Jamaica lost the qualifier 2-0 in Honduras.

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Re: Lance Armstrong to be stripped of Tour de France titles and banned for life
« Reply #279 on: October 29, 2013, 08:26:16 PM »
Poacher turns gamekeeper maybe?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cycling/24724501

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Re: Lance Armstrong to be stripped of Tour de France titles and banned for life
« Reply #280 on: November 01, 2013, 12:03:19 PM »
Ryder Hesjedal ''admits'' to doping over 10 years ago.

Now does anyone actually believe it was for a very short period such a long time ago?

Apparently he confessed to Wada sometime early this year. This in my eyes is only because Rasmussen came out and said he was telling everything and he shit himself. I would have thought more of him if he'd come out in public and admitted the whole truth rather than keep it in the shadows for as long as he could.

Definately cannot see him having ridden on Discovery and Phonak (both massive doping squads) without being juiced, which makes his story exactly that, a story.

I really do pity the clean ones.

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Re: Lance Armstrong to be stripped of Tour de France titles and banned for life
« Reply #281 on: November 01, 2013, 02:34:07 PM »
I can't wait for 10 years time when we find out who's juicing now.
The sport is a farce.

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Re: Lance Armstrong to be stripped of Tour de France titles and banned for life
« Reply #282 on: November 01, 2013, 02:49:40 PM »
I think it is time for the authorities to start from scratch. A year zero. Give an amnesty for a certain period. All individuals, teams, helpers with knowledge or anything to admit can come forward and reveal EVERYTHING. In return there is no punishment.

Anyone not revealing information about themselves or others outside of this period are subject to a lifetime ban in the sport. Be it as a rider or anything to do with the running of a team.

Maybe that is the only way we can end these false testimonies. Nearly everyone who comes out speaks about things they did outside of the statute of limitations for the sport, so nothing can really be done about it. We are meant to believe that after 2006 virtually everyone stopped, we are being taken for idiots.

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Re: Lance Armstrong to be stripped of Tour de France titles and banned for life
« Reply #283 on: November 11, 2013, 01:19:04 PM »
Poor old Lance...my heart is really bleeding, especially after reading this:


    theguardian.com, Monday 11 November 2013 10.13 GMT   

Lance Armstrong
Lance Armstrong said he would testify with '100% transparency and honesty' at any doping inquiry. Photograph: Michael Paulsen/AP

Lance Armstrong has questioned the validity of cycling's inquiry into doping and complained that he had "experienced massive personal loss... while others have truly capitalised on this story".

"Do I think that this process has been good for cycling?" he said in a BBC interview. "No. I don't think our sport has been served well by going back 15 years.

"I don't think that any sport, or any political scenario, is well served going back 15 years. And if you go back 15 years, you might as well go back 30."

However, the disgraced former seven-times Tour de France winner said he would testify with "100% transparency and honesty" at any future inquiry after the new president of the UCI, Brian Cookson, announced an independent commission to get to the bottom of drug use in the sport.

The United States Anti-Doping Agency had accused him of conducting "the most sophisticated, professionalised and successful doping programme sport has ever seen" and Armstrong said he would be prepared to take any punishment as long as it was on a level playing field: "If everyone gets the death penalty, then I'll take the death penalty.

"If everyone gets a free pass, I'm happy to take a free pass. If everyone gets six months, then I'll take my six months."

But he bemoaned the cost to himself, both in terms of his reputation and the threat to his own personal fortune, estimated to be around £78m.

"It's been tough," he said. "It's been real tough. I've paid a high price in terms of my standing within the sport, my reputation, certainly financially because the lawsuits have continued to pile up.

"I have experienced massive personal loss, massive loss of wealth while others have truly capitalised on this story."

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Re: Lance Armstrong to be stripped of Tour de France titles and banned for life
« Reply #284 on: November 11, 2013, 02:48:51 PM »
Transparency first and deal wih any potential lightening of sanctions after.
he said his Oprah interview would be no holds barred but didn't name anyone.
Lie to me once - bad on you lie to me twice - bad on me.

 


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