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Offline Dante Lavelli

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Re: Sell Bent?
« Reply #75 on: August 20, 2012, 09:06:04 PM »
Buying a big centre forward to win the ball in the air is absolutely pointless unless you have wingers to cross the ball in. Sell Bent, really? Madness, unless it's a swap for someone even better.

Germany manage pretty well and they do not play wingers. 

Are we Germany? Gomes also isn't really THAT type of forward either.  There is always an exception to the rule I suppose but buying Carroll, rather than Gomez, wouldn't really suit Villa at this point.

Obviously we’re not germany, but that’s not to say we couldn’t try and replicate their style, especially with Lambert and our head scout’s connections.  My point was that having a big guy does not mean you have to play wingers.

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Re: Sell Bent?
« Reply #76 on: August 20, 2012, 09:13:08 PM »
Buying a big centre forward to win the ball in the air is absolutely pointless unless you have wingers to cross the ball in. Sell Bent, really? Madness, unless it's a swap for someone even better.

Germany manage pretty well and they do not play wingers. 

Are we Germany? Gomes also isn't really THAT type of forward either.  There is always an exception to the rule I suppose but buying Carroll, rather than Gomez, wouldn't really suit Villa at this point.

Obviously we’re not germany, but that’s not to say we couldn’t try and replicate their style, especially with Lambert and our head scout’s connections.  My point was that having a big guy does not mean you have to play wingers.

Fair enough mate but now Aftab thinks we're swapping Bent for Gomez!!!

Offline Dante Lavelli

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Re: Sell Bent?
« Reply #77 on: August 20, 2012, 10:09:29 PM »
We’re swapping Bent for Gomez!  Awsome, can he bring Ozil, Sschweinstiegger, Lahm, ahhhh, what the hell, the rest of the German squad too.  That’ll solve the winger conundrum.

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Re: Sell Bent?
« Reply #78 on: August 20, 2012, 10:13:50 PM »
I think we should sell Bent purely for the satisfaction of watching Ozzjim implode.


Strange comment when I have openly said it might benefit us on this, and other threads over the last couple of days having watched us against West Ham.

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Re: Sell Bent?
« Reply #79 on: August 20, 2012, 10:23:39 PM »
I can see where Martin is coming from with this. Bent thrives on service and supply from wingers. We currently do not provide this. He's an out-and-out goal-scorer. Nothing else. We either need to play to his style or adapt accordingly. I'd like to see us accommodate him. That depends upon a system and formation to provide him with what he needs to play to his strength.

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Re: Sell Bent?
« Reply #80 on: August 20, 2012, 10:29:59 PM »
Sell our 20 goal a season striker. No chance. We need to concentrate on how to supply him. End of chat.

It's a discussion, not a chat. There should be no 'end' to this. FACT! (sic)

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Re: Sell Bent?
« Reply #81 on: August 20, 2012, 10:37:55 PM »
Sell our 20 goal a season striker. No chance. We need to concentrate on how to supply him. End of chat.

It's a discussion, not a chat. There should be no 'end' to this. FACT! (sic)

It's not even the beginning of the chat.  20 goal a season?  He's managed that once in the Premier League.

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Re: Sell Bent?
« Reply #82 on: August 20, 2012, 10:39:24 PM »
As far as I can see, in between some posters calling other's opinions 'stupid' or 'madness', a sensible debate almost breaks out about whether or not we could improve as a team by selling Bent and re-investing the money. This does not mean automatically knocking 20 off our 'goals for' column, but some people can't seem to get their head around that. One theory is there'd be another striker who'd score some goals, set some up, help with greater possession in the opposition half and generally make us MORE potent in attack, not less.

I don't remember us scoring 25 less goals the seasons after selling Platt and Yorke, who were both much better players. I bet that confused some of the contributors to this thread.
« Last Edit: August 20, 2012, 10:51:37 PM by Percy McCarthy »

Offline wozwebs

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Re: Sell Bent?
« Reply #83 on: August 20, 2012, 10:41:26 PM »
This on twitter just

@Agent_ITK: Darren Bent could make a surprise return to #THFC, depends on wage demands. #Spurs #Football #Villa #AVFC

Bloke ha been spot on about few things this summer including RVP to Man Utd weeks ago

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Re: Sell Bent?
« Reply #84 on: August 20, 2012, 10:52:42 PM »
As far as I can see, every now and then a sensible debate breaks out about whether or not we could improve as a team by selling Bent and re-investing the money. This does not mean automatically knocking 20 off our 'goals for' column. One theory is there'd be another striker who'd score some goals, set some up, help with greater possession in the opposition half and generally make us MORE potent in attack, not less.

I don't remember us scoring 25 less goals the seasons after selling Platt and Yorke.

Well, exactly Percy.  It obviously all depends on if the money was reinvested, and on whom, but say for example, we got £18m back for Bent, and then spent £10m on a player of the quality of Ba or Cisse at Newcastle, I'd be perfectly happy.

Offline PeterWithesShin

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Re: Sell Bent?
« Reply #85 on: August 20, 2012, 10:54:47 PM »
Be interesting to know how many goals per game we've scored in with Bent and without him since he joined. I'd look it up but am going to watch F on Film4.

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Re: Sell Bent?
« Reply #86 on: August 20, 2012, 10:58:19 PM »
We’re swapping Bent for Gomez!  Awsome, can he bring Ozil, Sschweinstiegger, Lahm, ahhhh, what the hell, the rest of the German squad too.  That’ll solve the winger conundrum.

I thought I saw a world class fullback getting ready for action at Bodymoor Heath today, but it was just Hutton dressed as Lahm.

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Re: Sell Bent?
« Reply #87 on: August 20, 2012, 10:59:41 PM »
This on twitter just

@Agent_ITK: Darren Bent could make a surprise return to #THFC, depends on wage demands. #Spurs #Football #Villa #AVFC

Bloke ha been spot on about few things this summer including RVP to Man Utd weeks ago


The 'feel good factor' generated by Paul Lamberts arrival would be destroyed immediately if that happened.

For every one tweet that agent ITK gets right, he gets 8 or 9 wrong...

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Re: Sell Bent?
« Reply #88 on: August 20, 2012, 11:00:27 PM »
There is no point in selling Bent as we need a goalscorer. We should be looking for a partner.

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Re: Sell Bent?
« Reply #89 on: August 20, 2012, 11:08:02 PM »
I tweeted for @pickastonvilla, 'Darren Bent returning to Spurs? I've seen things on Doctor Who I find easier to believe.'

 


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