Villa Park as an Olympics Venue

[Legion]

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[VILLA MOLE]

"you fuckin dick" isn't abusive?

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[remy]

Villa Park will be hosting the Community Shield between Chelsea and Man City because other venues are being used for the Olympics. If we was holding Olympic games we might of only got some the games most people wouldn't have a lot of interest in and a empty ground.

I'd rather see VP full with fans for the Community Shield, between 2 of our top clubs than possibility of games like Egypt vs New Zealand that could have a half empty ground and wrecking our pitch for games there is little interest in.

..and also what is the difference between Man city / Chelsea wrecking our pitch than New Zealand vs Egypt?

Are you being serious? Do I really need to explain how 12 matches in 2 weeks for the Olympics compared with 1 match for the Community shield will cause a lot more damage to our pitch prior to the start the season?

We aren't playing any home friendlies before start of the season which means the Community Shield match will be the only game played on our pitch this pre-season which will pretty much mean the pitch will be in great condition for the start the season.

Nice and ready for our assault on the Premier League title while the cut up pitches at Newcastle and Manchester United will seriously hinder their prospects - as grass is notorious for not growing.

Don't try to be a smart arse trying to twist things around and making cocky comments you fuckin dick - you asked a dumb question and I answered it - even a complete moron can work out 12 Olympic matches will cause more damage than 1 Community Shield game.

-- And this doesnt bother Manchester United and Newcastle then?

Personally I would rather have everything at it's best for the start of the season rather than our ground staff having to patch the pitch up after bunch of second rate teams have been playing on it, the ground staff have spent all summer taking care of the pitch for our first home game of the season and if our pitch has to be patched up now what sort of condition is it going to be as the season progresses.

--So because it might have been the International teams of New Zealand and Belarus they have no right to grace our Villa English turf. Nice.
--Thats the ground staff's job isnt it to look after the pitch, what the hell are the club paying them for???
--The Olympics finish on Sunday August 12th with the Gold medal match at Wembley, with the last game played in the other cities finished before then. Our first  home match of the season is on August 25th - go figure.

Yes grass grows but if you cut chunks and divets out the pitch they don't grow back they have to be cut out and patched and those patches are well known for continually being bad throughout the season, they can cause all sorts of problems.

--What are you a ex-groundman?

But hey if you think a patched up pitch is better than a perfect one then that's your prerogative but don't try to be a smart arse n attempt to make me look stupid to cover over the dumb question you asked in response to my post.

You did that yourself with your personal abuse.

[remy]

Remind me again what the city of Birmingham has done for us.

What were you expecting the city of Birmingham to have done, or be doing for us to have hosted some Olympic Football matches at Villa Park in return?

I'm not talking about the Olympics. I mean over the years - up to and including a recent council leader saying we should change our name to help the city.

Sorry Dave, when I said the city of Birmingham I was not referring to the Council, but the people within the city.

[remy]

"Justifiably ridiculed" - because Im bringing some valid points across and I dont agree with some of the points made?

You think they are valid points, but they aren't - they're your opinion.

The standard of teams has been pretty poor? What difference does that make? Dont they play reserve games at VP? Are you expecting Brazil 70 vs Spain 2010 every time you see teams step onto the turf. Get real. Ive seen some seriously poor games played at Villa Park over the last few years and this is supposed to be the Elite league in all of England!!!!

Yeah, but its Villa, I'd rather Villa won a corner than see 'Team' GB win the gold.

And what if there was an Aston Villa player in the starting XI for Team GB?

[remy]

I think casual and foreign viewers would see Villa Park as a minor ground if it hosted a few crap Olympic games like Coventry are, while the best games are at OT, Hampden etc.

 Whereas those watching the Community Shield will think (not being aware of geographical detail) that the stately home of football must be the next best venue when Wembley is otherwise engaged.

I disagree, I think we would be perceived as one of the selected venues important enough to hold an Olympic event in England's 2nd largest city.

[remy]

Villa Park will be hosting the Community Shield between Chelsea and Man City because other venues are being used for the Olympics. If we was holding Olympic games we might of only got some the games most people wouldn't have a lot of interest in and a empty ground.

I'd rather see VP full with fans for the Community Shield, between 2 of our top clubs than possibility of games like Egypt vs New Zealand that could have a half empty ground and wrecking our pitch for games there is little interest in.

..and also what is the difference between Man city / Chelsea wrecking our pitch than New Zealand vs Egypt?

Are you being serious? Do I really need to explain how 12 matches in 2 weeks for the Olympics compared with 1 match for the Community shield will cause a lot more damage to our pitch prior to the start the season?

We aren't playing any home friendlies before start of the season which means the Community Shield match will be the only game played on our pitch this pre-season which will pretty much mean the pitch will be in great condition for the start the season.

Nice and ready for our assault on the Premier League title while the cut up pitches at Newcastle and Manchester United will seriously hinder their prospects - as grass is notorious for not growing.

Don't try to be a smart arse trying to twist things around and making cocky comments you fuckin dick - you asked a dumb question and I answered it - even a complete moron can work out 12 Olympic matches will cause more damage than 1 Community Shield game.

Personally I would rather have everything at it's best for the start of the season rather than our ground staff having to patch the pitch up after bunch of second rate teams have been playing on it, the ground staff have spent all summer taking care of the pitch for our first home game of the season and if our pitch has to be patched up now what sort of condition is it going to be as the season progresses.

Yes grass grows but if you cut chunks and divets out the pitch they don't grow back they have to be cut out and patched and those patches are well known for continually being bad throughout the season, they can cause all sorts of problems.

But hey if you think a patched up pitch is better than a perfect one then that's your prerogative but don't try to be a smart arse n attempt to make me look stupid to cover over the dumb question you asked in response to my post.

Please cease and desist with the personal abuse.

I don't consider that to be personal abuse, more a statement of fact, he was trying to be a smart arse  by twisting what had been said to try make me look a dumbass to cover up his stupid question and generally being a dick about it - maybe my language is a bit colourful but it wasn't abusive.

Colourful? I would shudder to think what you'd make of as abusive.

[Stu]

"Justifiably ridiculed" - because Im bringing some valid points across and I dont agree with some of the points made?

You think they are valid points, but they aren't - they're your opinion.

The standard of teams has been pretty poor? What difference does that make? Dont they play reserve games at VP? Are you expecting Brazil 70 vs Spain 2010 every time you see teams step onto the turf. Get real. Ive seen some seriously poor games played at Villa Park over the last few years and this is supposed to be the Elite league in all of England!!!!

Yeah, but its Villa, I'd rather Villa won a corner than see 'Team' GB win the gold.

And what if there was an Aston Villa player in the starting XI for Team GB?

Are you going to deal in anything other than the hypothetical? They don't make your point valid.

[Percy McCarthy]

Yes, but below a few others in the pecking order. Not so in the case of the Community Shield, which, as opposed to crap Olympic games, is one that people actually want to watch, as will be borne out by the attendance and probably the TV viewing figures.

[Stu]

I think casual and foreign viewers would see Villa Park as a minor ground if it hosted a few crap Olympic games like Coventry are, while the best games are at OT, Hampden etc.

 Whereas those watching the Community Shield will think (not being aware of geographical detail) that the stately home of football must be the next best venue when Wembley is otherwise engaged.

I disagree, I think we would be perceived as one of the selected venues important enough to hold an Olympic event in England's 2nd largest city.

Here's a fact; Villa Park was considered important enough but it wasn't deemed a good enough deal for the club.

Villa told the Logoc 'thanks, but no thanks'. How awesome is our club.

[Percy McCarthy]

The point is we were offered both, and the people who were in possession of all the relevant information and who's job is to serve our best interests, decided that one would be good for the club, and the other not so good. I'll go with that.

As for the abuse remy, I think you were a bit snide and piss-taking with the other bloke. Pot and kettle etc. - I'm the same myself sometimes. But I'm not surprised if people then tell me to fuck off.

[pauliewalnuts]

I don't consider that to be personal abuse, more a statement of fact, he was trying to be a smart arse  by twisting what had been said to try make me look a dumbass to cover up his stupid question and generally being a dick about it - maybe my language is a bit colourful but it wasn't abusive.

Unfortunately, we do, and it's not your opinion of whether it is abusive that counts, it is ours, so knock it on the head, please.

[Ger Regan]

I think we're all being a bit harsh on remy.

Disagree. Had he kept to the prestige argument then I don't think he'd have gotten as much stick as he has. Sadly, for him, he brought some utter nonsense into the debate, and is justifiably being ridiculed.

And I also have to disagree with your assertion that we'd be hosting bigger matches than New Zealand and the likes. The overall standard of the teams on offer is pretty poor, and we'd have been up against 3 other grounds that I would consider to have been ahead of us in the queue for the top matches, 4 if you include Hamden.

"Justifiably ridiculed" - because Im bringing some valid points across and I dont agree with some of the points made?

The standard of teams has been pretty poor? What difference does that make? Dont they play reserve games at VP? Are you expecting Brazil 70 vs Spain 2010 every time you see teams step onto the turf. Get real. Ive seen some seriously poor games played at Villa Park over the last few years and this is supposed to be the Elite league in all of England!!!!

I'm being very real, thank you. You're the one dealing in some intangible value of prestige in Villa Park being an Olympic Venue. I consider this prestige to be seriously diminished due to the actual quality of teams involved, which would invariably have been played in front of low crowds. When I see the highlights of games at Hampden or Millenium Stadium or wherever, I don't think "wow, the people of Glasgow / Cardiff must be really proud to be part of the Olympic games", mostly it's been "wow, the crowds are really poor".

Bringing reserve team games and crap PL games into your argument is utter tosh as well. For one, we get a direct benefit from PL games, and then there's the small matter of villa actually playing in those games, which is, you know, the reason Villa Park exists in the first place.

[villastikz]

Colourful? I would shudder to think what you'd make of as abusive.

sorry next time I'll be a weasel and just hide behind snide remarks and insinuated insults.

[villastikz]

I don't consider that to be personal abuse, more a statement of fact, he was trying to be a smart arse  by twisting what had been said to try make me look a dumbass to cover up his stupid question and generally being a dick about it - maybe my language is a bit colourful but it wasn't abusive.

Unfortunately, we do, and it's not your opinion of whether it is abusive that counts, it is ours, so knock it on the head, please.

I'll attempt to watch my language.