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Offline pauliewalnuts

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Re: Concrete Ron deal back on.
« Reply #420 on: July 27, 2012, 08:40:41 PM »
Has anyone else mentioned that Koeman is the cheating tosser who messed with Graham Taylor in that England qualifier? Shoulda been sent off, then scored a free kick.

"He's gonna chip him, he's gonna chip him, HE'S GONNA CHIP HIM!"

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Re: Concrete Ron deal back on.
« Reply #421 on: July 27, 2012, 08:43:23 PM »
A friend of mine who supports Feyenoord has sent me the following scout report, it all sounds rather promising.

- Pretty good header

- Pretty good long pass

- Very strong (could be a MMA fighter)

- Bit of a fighter (in the good sense)/leader on the pitch and a popular player at the club Feyenoord.

- Was deemed to be the next Jaap Stam but never fulfilled that promise (also due to injury)

- Was with Clasie, El Ahmadi (yours also), Bakkal and Guidetti the carrying player of the team this last season for Feyenoord.

- Has suffered his fair share of injuries. Quite some actually, but is to full fitness, also thanks a specially designed regime for himself.

- Had a mixed, maybe even bad first part of the season (Groningen away was the absolute low), but second part was pretty good. Good enough for a Dutch NT squad spot and ultimately a starting spot against Portugal over Heitinga.

- IMO he turns slow around his own axis, meaning an agile player that easily twists and turns can leave him in the dust.

- Though he is not slow. Vlaar has proper speed.

- He is a bit stiff, also from all the working out he has done I guess.

- Overall is a decent defender. Made for EPL if he was ever going abroad. I think he must be scaled into the category useful club player if he comes to Villa and plays in EPL. I think de Vrij at Feyenoord has a higher ceiling (was really the stand out in the last U21 game for Holland) and the same goes for BMI probably (not sure about him though). In the short term this is going to hurt Feyenoord, but if both named CD develop well and build a good understanding (something de Vrij and Vlaar had) then they could be good and use the money for a striker. Or not, as Vlaar was in a talent share construction IIRC and so I guess they have some pay back to do. But that's another story.

Offline gervilla

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Re: Concrete Ron deal back on.
« Reply #422 on: July 27, 2012, 09:00:18 PM »
Ooh aah Ron Vlaar, say ooh ahh Ron Vlaar!

He'll have to be pretty good to warrant his name being included in that chant.

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Re: Concrete Ron deal back on.
« Reply #423 on: July 27, 2012, 09:14:43 PM »
It's one of those situations where neither side is in the right or wrong and that could have been resolved by better communication from each side.

He's been quoted as saying the Villa 'apologised for the way they acted' so that suggests we fucked something up.

Or he's trying to save face.

Exactly!

I know footballers are generally very stupid but lying to the press about your new employers apologising for their conduct would be right up there as a major faux pas.
Indeed.

It may have been a courteous, "sorry we weren't able to get it all sorted prior to the USA trip", but he wouldn't say it if there wasn't an apology from us.

Which is fine, we apologise and we sign the player we want. Everyone is happy.

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Re: Concrete Ron deal back on.
« Reply #424 on: July 27, 2012, 09:28:40 PM »
On paper a great signing.  4m euros for a dutch international and of an age/experience we would need if we’re looking to start Clark.

Off topic, but would anyone be worried what size Dunne could get to if he’s not playing every week?
Whilst we need 4 CB, an unengaged Dunne is less than worthless.

Offline Chipsticks

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Re: Concrete Ron deal back on.
« Reply #425 on: July 27, 2012, 09:35:04 PM »
On paper a great signing.  4m euros for a dutch international and of an age/experience we would need if we’re looking to start Clark.

Off topic, but would anyone be worried what size Dunne could get to if he’s not playing every week?
Whilst we need 4 CB, an unengaged Dunne is less than worthless.

While I'm just as excited as everyone else for a Clark/Vlaar partnership at centre-half, would it be worth querying whether we might be playing Clark at Left Back? We know he can play there, and it might be a more sensible option in Lambert's mind than a complete overhaul? Being as it seems he's not just a meat-head player like I assumed he might be, maybe he could play at the back with Dunne?

Not saying that it's what I think we should do, I'm just offering it as an idea.

Offline Brend'Watkins

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Re: Concrete Ron deal back on.
« Reply #426 on: July 27, 2012, 10:45:45 PM »
Looks like our "Team" Captain is sorted now!!!

Far from it. 

He's a squad member as it is is the way I see it.  A number of sterling performances and an ability to lead and show his passion for the club might get him to that position at some stage later.

Offline Toronto Villa

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Re: Concrete Ron deal back on.
« Reply #427 on: July 27, 2012, 10:49:23 PM »
On paper a great signing.  4m euros for a dutch international and of an age/experience we would need if we’re looking to start Clark.

Off topic, but would anyone be worried what size Dunne could get to if he’s not playing every week?
Whilst we need 4 CB, an unengaged Dunne is less than worthless.

While I'm just as excited as everyone else for a Clark/Vlaar partnership at centre-half, would it be worth querying whether we might be playing Clark at Left Back? We know he can play there, and it might be a more sensible option in Lambert's mind than a complete overhaul? Being as it seems he's not just a meat-head player like I assumed he might be, maybe he could play at the back with Dunne?

Not saying that it's what I think we should do, I'm just offering it as an idea.

Too slow Chips in my opinion. Nice as cover should it become needed, but I'd rather he had a couple specialists there. Stevens hasn't done badly but is a back up. I'd like too how the lad Creswell does if we get him. I think Clark with some good coaching can be a wonderful player.

Offline Chipsticks

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Re: Concrete Ron deal back on.
« Reply #428 on: July 27, 2012, 10:51:11 PM »
On paper a great signing.  4m euros for a dutch international and of an age/experience we would need if we’re looking to start Clark.

Off topic, but would anyone be worried what size Dunne could get to if he’s not playing every week?
Whilst we need 4 CB, an unengaged Dunne is less than worthless.

While I'm just as excited as everyone else for a Clark/Vlaar partnership at centre-half, would it be worth querying whether we might be playing Clark at Left Back? We know he can play there, and it might be a more sensible option in Lambert's mind than a complete overhaul? Being as it seems he's not just a meat-head player like I assumed he might be, maybe he could play at the back with Dunne?

Not saying that it's what I think we should do, I'm just offering it as an idea.

Too slow Chips in my opinion. Nice as cover should it become needed, but I'd rather he had a couple specialists there. Stevens hasn't done badly but is a back up. I'd like too how the lad Creswell does if we get him. I think Clark with some good coaching can be a wonderful player.

I think you're right to be honest. It'll be interesting to see what happens in the Left Back position then.

Offline villan from luton

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Re: Concrete Ron deal back on.
« Reply #429 on: July 27, 2012, 10:55:19 PM »
Does seem from his interest in Cresswell that PL is after a left back and if Ipswich want to be silly he will look elsewhere

Offline Toronto Villa

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Re: Concrete Ron deal back on.
« Reply #430 on: July 27, 2012, 11:03:28 PM »
Does seem from his interest in Cresswell that PL is after a left back and if Ipswich want to be silly he will look elsewhere

The fact that Ipswich have already gone and purchased a new left back leads me to believe that the Cresswell deal isn't too far off.

Offline Mr Speedy H

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Re: Concrete Ron deal back on.
« Reply #431 on: July 27, 2012, 11:06:34 PM »
Concrete Ron MADE the deal go back on.

Offline Chipsticks

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Re: Concrete Ron deal back on.
« Reply #432 on: July 27, 2012, 11:24:11 PM »
Does seem from his interest in Cresswell that PL is after a left back and if Ipswich want to be silly he will look elsewhere

The fact that Ipswich have already gone and purchased a new left back leads me to believe that the Cresswell deal isn't too far off.

Is he a Left Back then? I've heard his name on here a bit but do you know what he's like? Is he any good?

Offline villan from luton

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« Reply #433 on: July 27, 2012, 11:26:23 PM »
Am not too sure that Ipswich actually signed the Doncaster left back, think he was also talking to Middlesbrough. Aint got a clue about Cresswell except that he is a left back and highly rated by the Ipswich fans

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Re: Concrete Ron deal back on.
« Reply #434 on: July 27, 2012, 11:29:46 PM »
Boom. I was sure that Ron would be a Villan, good on you son.

 


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