Concrete Ron deal done

[Pete3206]

Does anyone think that this would be a big deal if Vlaar hadn't gone on record about being at Villa Park and talking about a dream move, etc as soon as he got back to Holland?

[Toronto Villa]

Another consequence of having a fan blow the secrecy of the deal. If it was all being done behind the scenes as Villa like to do it wouldn't put so much pressure on getting things done. That said the player has made his feelings known and I'm sure that it will all get sorted out soon.

It isn't anything to do with that, though. It is Feyenoord grumbling about how long it's taking, not a fan. They'll have known the state of affairs regardless of someone snapping Vlaar.

It makes it a lot more awkward for the Feyenoord now that everyone knows about this. Their fans will be very disappointed that their club have allowed their captain to leave. Now they are having to play some damage control. There is a consequence to this being "found out" so to speak so now they want the deal settled quickly so they can move on. Had everything been kept under wraps it would have been one of those 48 hour deals where all the behind the scenes stuff has been done already and fans only found when essentially it is done and dusted.

And what if, like OGS, this doesn't happen? We all thought Solskjær was coming based on the things he said. Villa said all along that they were just looking at options. It will difficult for Feyenoord and their fans to welcome the player back because the player has proclaimed his desire to leave and inevitably there will be amongst us with daggers for the club/Faulkner because he didn't complete the deal.

Except it wouldn't have avtually been a 48 hours deal would it? In fact I'd be amazed if any deal ever started and concluded that quickly any more.

I really don't think it is anything to do with the deal being found out - they'd probably want the uncertainty settled in any case, it must be unsettling, you can understand that.

We'd probably know about it anyway, even without the pics. Lots of deals get leaked to the press in any case, they do get some of them right.If knowledge of his presence here was going to cause problems, I doubt Lambert would have shown him the ground while a tour party was going around.

There's no reason for anyone to stick the boot into the CEO on this, if we really wanted him or were concerned it would fall through, we'd do something about it, but likewise, there's no reason to see the fan in question having done anything wrong or blown anything, either.

That's not what I said. Deals take much longer now than in the past with so many vested parties to appease. The 48 hour reference related to the first time as fans we find out to conclusion. Look at the Matt Lowton deal as an example. When things are kept under wraps until the last possible moments they done with least fuss and consternation as opposed to what we have now with this possible transfer. Because it has become public knowledge on the eve of our tour there is already a perception that as a club we are messing Feyenoord around. Had nobody discovered this, we could have concluded the deal upon our return and as fans we'd only have realised this was happening at the very end. Instead we have a player that has made his feelings known and his club that are pissed off.

[atomicjam]

Vlaar - Villa move off for now
Defender focusing on Feyenoord following meeting with Lambert

Ron Vlaar says any possible transfer to Aston Villa is 'off for now' and the defender plans to focus on his current club Feyenoord.
 
The Netherlands international travelled to England a week ago to hold talks with Villa manager Paul Lambert regarding a possible move to the Premier League.
 
Vlaar subsequently admitted it would be a 'dream come true' to join Villa, but Feyenoord have not received any contact since the player's meeting with Lambert.
 
The Dutch club have been critical of Villa over the weekend and coach Ronald Koeman had set a deadline of Monday for their English counterparts to make a decision regarding Vlaar.
 
Koeman also suggested that he thought the centre-half would be leaving De Kuip, but Vlaar now appears resigned to staying with Feyenoord.
 
"Feyenoord is in my heart and I have been through a lot here," Vlaar told RTV Rijnmond.
 
"I think the chance I will move to Aston Villa is not so big anymore.
 
"I don't want to be kept on a leash, so a transfer is off for now."


http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11095/7926460/Vlaar-Villa-move-off-for-now

[olaftab]

I guess we are not prepared to pay the price Koeman is after and gap is too big.

[Toronto Villa]

However this deal ends up, i've seen and heard enough from Lambert that he'll make some well thought out decisions. The team are playing the right way and he's purchased some very solid players.

[PeterWithe]

Has it failed to set?

[olaftab]

Not enough concrete and too much sand so far.

[luke25]

I'm pretty sure it will happen, the guy has said himself that its a dream move, we do our business in the correct manner so he needs to be patient.

[PaulWinch again]

Bloody hell.

[Percy McCarthy]

I blame Hilts.

;-)

[London Villan]

It might be we are trying to get plan A and Vlaar is plan B or even C.

[TheSandman]

This is the typical story of a protracted transfer saga. It gets out, the player flutters his eyelashes at the prospective club, it then goes quiet, player pledges to focus on current club and then lastly, in most cases the player moves.

[Toronto Villa]

This is the typical story of a protracted transfer saga. It gets out, the player flutters his eyelashes at the prospective club, it then goes quiet, player pledges to focus on current club and then lastly, in most cases the player moves.

That's the point I was trying to make though. It's only protracted because it was discovered before it was meant to be discovered. Had that photo never been taken then we as fans might only have found out about it after the tour where the discussions could resume between the various parties. As it is, a photo was taken, just like Randy's plane in Norway and is is being discussed openly. Given the fact that on top of all of that Villa are away on a tour for 10 days it is always going to seem protracted because they are not going to address it. Things have been said, and people are getting pissed off. The player is in an awkward position too. Apparently Feyenoord is in his heart yet moving to us would be a dream. I'm sure that isn't sitting well with the fans there.

[eastie]

I guess we are not prepared to pay the price Koeman is after and gap is too big.

Koeman said yesterday that the clause in vlaars contract set the fee at £3.2m so i cant see that being a problem- i really hope this deal goes through.

[SoccerHQ]

Fugsake...Milner isn't even that good. Let him be a workhorse winger on the bench half the time for twice the money.

Agree - love the bloke and was a decent player but where folk liken him to a deity i have never got to be honest

He was getting better and better every game he played in central midfield tho. Just look back to the second half of 09/10, he was carrying us at times, just look to Wigan away.

And that we've been crap in central midfield ever since, it's been a massive weak point in our team.