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Offline Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air

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Re: Ron Vlaar... or... Concrete Ron....
« Reply #165 on: July 21, 2012, 04:09:28 PM »
Also heard that Milner was in the middle of a very expensive refurbishment of his house and with a young family, had no plans to go anywhere.

Something else we have to thank MON for.

Milners house was only half a mile down the road from me. A modern property with a granny flat attached which he apparently turned into a couple of games rooms. The whole site was rebuilt from scratch by the previous owner approx  8/9 years. I never saw any major work going on there when Milner was living there. Two days after his move to Man City was confirmed, three large removal vans turned up. No `For Sale` board ever went up, not that they usually do with such property sales. For a time it seemed completely empty, but in recent months I've seen a 4W drive parked up there.
I went past it yesterday, the garden at the side still has two sets of portable goal posts complete with nets which he seems to have left behind.




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Re: Ron Vlaar... or... Concrete Ron....
« Reply #166 on: July 21, 2012, 04:20:15 PM »
I think we got a bit carried away last weekend with Concrete Ron. Had he not been spotted during the stadium tour, we'd be none the wiser, the deal could have gone ahead the first week of August and we'd all be saying 'wow wasn't that quick', 'I like the way we're going about our business' etc.

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Re: Ron Vlaar... or... Concrete Ron....
« Reply #167 on: July 21, 2012, 08:03:19 PM »

From what I was told, he never even wanted to leave. MON engineered it to bring funds into the club to allow him to pursue his targets (like McGeady). Also heard that Milner was in the middle of a very expensive refurbishment of his house and with a young family, had no plans to go anywhere.

Something else we have to thank MON for.

Basically, your informant was wrong on each point then!

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Re: Ron Vlaar... or... Concrete Ron....
« Reply #168 on: July 21, 2012, 11:21:47 PM »
Well, it was a few people who had said very similar things with me trying to remember things and piece them back together. I still believe the bit about MON engineering it to try and get some money to sign his targets with Milner not being so enthusiastic to leave as some would believe. As such, its hard to see people lumping Milner in with real mercenaries like Downing.

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Re: Ron Vlaar... or... Concrete Ron....
« Reply #169 on: July 21, 2012, 11:32:49 PM »
Another consequence of having a fan blow the secrecy of the deal. If it was all being done behind the scenes as Villa like to do it wouldn't put so much pressure on getting things done. That said the player has made his feelings known and I'm sure that it will all get sorted out soon.

It isn't anything to do with that, though. It is Feyenoord grumbling about how long it's taking, not a fan. They'll have known the state of affairs regardless of someone snapping Vlaar.

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Re: Ron Vlaar... or... Concrete Ron....
« Reply #170 on: July 22, 2012, 12:00:34 AM »
Another consequence of having a fan blow the secrecy of the deal. If it was all being done behind the scenes as Villa like to do it wouldn't put so much pressure on getting things done. That said the player has made his feelings known and I'm sure that it will all get sorted out soon.

It isn't anything to do with that, though. It is Feyenoord grumbling about how long it's taking, not a fan. They'll have known the state of affairs regardless of someone snapping Vlaar.


It makes it a lot more awkward for the Feyenoord now that everyone knows about this. Their fans will be very disappointed that their club have allowed their captain to leave. Now they are having to play some damage control. There is a consequence to this being "found out" so to speak so now they want the deal settled quickly so they can move on. Had everything been kept under wraps it would have been one of those 48 hour deals where all the behind the scenes stuff has been done already and fans only found when essentially it is done and dusted.

And what if, like OGS, this doesn't happen? We all thought Solskjaer was coming based on the things he said. Villa said all along that they were just looking at options. It will difficult for Feyenoord and their fans to welcome the player back because the player has proclaimed his desire to leave and inevitably there will be amongst us with daggers for the club/Faulkner because he didn't complete the deal.
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Re: Ron Vlaar... or... Concrete Ron....
« Reply #171 on: July 22, 2012, 04:17:36 AM »
You don't get to the point of showing a player around your ground if you're just looking at options, that's pretty much a deal that's quite a way down the line. As for Feyenoord fans, I can imagine their frustration but reading the fans forum  link just after he was spotted at Villa it was pretty much everyone saying that he deserved his move and that they'll get good money. And, to be fair its only been a week.

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Re: Ron Vlaar... or... Concrete Ron....
« Reply #172 on: July 22, 2012, 10:09:21 AM »
I like other clubs getting pissed off at our transfer dealings.

It shows we're doing things on our terms, and we'll probably get the best deal as a result, something that hasn't been the case for some time.

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Re: Ron Vlaar... or... Concrete Ron....
« Reply #173 on: July 22, 2012, 10:21:32 AM »
I dont think we should be pissing Feyenoord around. If we've courted their player and have now left it hanging with no dialogue it's a bit harsh and not worthy of us to be honest.
I really hope this isnt what's happened and if it is that we sort it out sharpish.

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Re: Ron Vlaar... or... Concrete Ron....
« Reply #174 on: July 22, 2012, 10:26:18 AM »
Fuck 'em, and that cheating bastard Koeman.

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Re: Ron Vlaar... or... Concrete Ron....
« Reply #175 on: July 22, 2012, 10:27:14 AM »
Another consequence of having a fan blow the secrecy of the deal. If it was all being done behind the scenes as Villa like to do it wouldn't put so much pressure on getting things done. That said the player has made his feelings known and I'm sure that it will all get sorted out soon.

It isn't anything to do with that, though. It is Feyenoord grumbling about how long it's taking, not a fan. They'll have known the state of affairs regardless of someone snapping Vlaar.


It makes it a lot more awkward for the Feyenoord now that everyone knows about this. Their fans will be very disappointed that their club have allowed their captain to leave. Now they are having to play some damage control. There is a consequence to this being "found out" so to speak so now they want the deal settled quickly so they can move on. Had everything been kept under wraps it would have been one of those 48 hour deals where all the behind the scenes stuff has been done already and fans only found when essentially it is done and dusted.

And what if, like OGS, this doesn't happen? We all thought Solskjær was coming based on the things he said. Villa said all along that they were just looking at options. It will difficult for Feyenoord and their fans to welcome the player back because the player has proclaimed his desire to leave and inevitably there will be amongst us with daggers for the club/Faulkner because he didn't complete the deal.

Except it wouldn't have avtually been a 48 hours deal would it? In fact I'd be amazed if any deal ever started and concluded that quickly any more.

I really don't think it is anything to do with the deal being found out - they'd probably want the uncertainty settled in any case, it must be unsettling, you can understand that.

We'd probably know about it anyway, even without the pics. Lots of deals get leaked to the press in any case, they do get some of them right.If knowledge of his presence here was going to cause problems, I doubt Lambert would have shown him the ground while a tour party was going around.

There's no reason for anyone to stick the boot into the CEO on this, if we really wanted him or were concerned it would fall through, we'd do something about it, but likewise, there's no reason to see the fan in question having done anything wrong or blown anything, either.

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Re: Ron Vlaar... or... Concrete Ron....
« Reply #176 on: July 22, 2012, 12:17:22 PM »
I dont think we should be pissing Feyenoord around. If we've courted their player and have now left it hanging with no dialogue it's a bit harsh and not worthy of us to be honest.
I really hope this isnt what's happened and if it is that we sort it out sharpish.

Perhaps we've made them fully aware of the situation, we've spoken to them / the player & shown him round VP. In the meantime the picture of him at VP has been leaked & Feyenoord / the player have made comments regarding 'dream move', 'he wants to got', release clause etc. What have we said? Nothing.

In the meantime we've gone to the US for 2 weeks, didn't Kendrick state before we left that there would be no more deals until we came back from the US?   

Perhaps he's one of many options, we may have to sell before we buy, the player may have asked for time to consider?

Lerner & Faulkner have, to date, always done things in the right manner, sometimes we've been critical of them for doing so but I see no reason to suspect they are doing anything wrong.

Keoman can do one.


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Re: Ron Vlaar... or... Concrete Ron....
« Reply #177 on: July 22, 2012, 01:03:46 PM »
I dont think we should be pissing Feyenoord around. If we've courted their player and have now left it hanging with no dialogue it's a bit harsh and not worthy of us to be honest.
I really hope this isnt what's happened and if it is that we sort it out sharpish.

I am sure there is plenty of dialogue, just not the dialogue Feyenoord want to hear at the moment.

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Re: Ron Vlaar... or... Concrete Ron....
« Reply #178 on: July 22, 2012, 01:17:39 PM »
I agree with Paulie. These Dutch slags are far too eager to see the colour of our money.

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Re: Ron Vlaar... or... Concrete Ron....
« Reply #179 on: July 22, 2012, 01:33:21 PM »
I agree with Paulie. These Dutch slags are far too eager to see the colour of our money.

When in Amsterdam, never buy from the first window you look in.

 


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