Guzan To Re-Sign

[john e]

Not sure why we're suddenly anti-Given on the back of a poor couple of games in the Euros. He was arguably our best player by some distance last season.

This

Said the same myself earlier in the thread.

agreed, i wonder if Man Utd fans are worried about Rooney because of his poor showing in the Euro's

[villastikz]

My main problem with Given is that he is the kind of keeper that prefers to gamble on saving a shot from a cross rather than dealing with the cross itself.

The odds on an opponent scoring are dramatically increased by allowing him to shoot - if you stop the ball getting to the player in the first place then they can't shoot, it's as simple as that and doesn't take a genius to work out - it's not a new issue he has played his whole career like that and I'm not just basing my opinion on the Euros, although that highlighted his flaws, including the well known fact throughout his career that he lacks skill in organizing and commanding his defense.

I've always thought he was overrated and as he has got older he has had more injuries which is a problem and clearly he won't be as agile at 36 as he was at 26. Some say he is world class but I question where are all this world class clubs waving their cheque books at him.

[ozzjim]

Given is inhibited by his style, and it will cause sides to concede more goals that with keepers that have better command of their area. As an overall package, with the contract he is on, and his relative ability, I would move him on ASAP.

[Chris Harte]

Given is inhibited by his style, and it will cause sides to concede more goals that with keepers that have better command of their area. As an overall package, with the contract he is on, and his relative ability, I would move him on ASAP.

With this in mind, Paddy Kenny has left QPR and they were reported to be looking at Given earlier in the summer.

*fingers crossed*

[Dave]

He is very poor under the ball and Blackburn badly exposed him the semi a coupel of seasons ago.

Which is the only game that anybody is really able to throw at him. It was a bit of a horror show, but prior to that everyone was extremely positive about Guzan. The Sunderland and Prague games were as good as any goalkeeping displays as we've had in the last decade or so. He then had that one awful game and has been perfectly good whenever called upon since.

As for your poor recollection of the Stoke games, Guzan played in both - and played far better in the 0-0 than he did in the 1-1.

[not3bad]

Given is inhibited by his style, and it will cause sides to concede more goals that with keepers that have better command of their area. As an overall package, with the contract he is on, and his relative ability, I would move him on ASAP.

With this in mind, Paddy Kenny has left QPR and they were reported to be looking at Given earlier in the summer.

*fingers crossed*

Not going to happen.  Lambert has been sticking up for him and rightly so.  Out of all the positions where we need to strengthen it amazes me we're discussing this.

[villastikz]

Given is inhibited by his style, and it will cause sides to concede more goals that with keepers that have better command of their area. As an overall package, with the contract he is on, and his relative ability, I would move him on ASAP.

With this in mind, Paddy Kenny has left QPR and they were reported to be looking at Given earlier in the summer.

*fingers crossed*

They brought Robert Green in on a free instead.

[Chris Harte]

They brought Robert Green in on a free instead.

I must've missed this one.

[Hookeysmith]

Not sure why we're suddenly anti-Given on the back of a poor couple of games in the Euros. He was arguably our best player by some distance last season.

The problem with International football and Shrek is that if he if off form red nose does not hestitate to drop him to the bench or worse - at National level any manager that dares drop him, no matter how much he stinks the place out, writes his own death warrant with the media

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Said the same myself earlier in the thread.

agreed, i wonder if Man Utd fans are worried about Rooney because of his poor showing in the Euro's

[john e]

i have never known any other player to be constantly judged on one bad game he played 3 years ago, seems like he will always be defined by that game for some.

i have seen both Friedel and Given flap about in games over the last 3 years, but it hardly gets a mention, and it doesnt make them bad keepers
 in Guzans case, he leaned from it and was perfect when up against the same sort of onslaught against Stoke last season, you cant ask much more than that

[VillaAlways]

He is very poor under the ball and Blackburn badly exposed him the semi a coupel of seasons ago.

As for your poor recollection of the Stoke games, Guzan played in both - and played far better in the 0-0 than he did in the 1-1.

I'm sure Given was in goal for the home game

[Dave]

He is very poor under the ball and Blackburn badly exposed him the semi a coupel of seasons ago.

As for your poor recollection of the Stoke games, Guzan played in both - and played far better in the 0-0 than he did in the 1-1.

I'm sure Given was in goal for the home game

You're right - he was. I managed to mis-read the BBC match report that I checked when making my original post.

So to sum up, Guzan did better in the away game against Stoke than Given did in the home game. Sorted.

[not3bad]

I expected my text message by now.  I wonder what the hold up is.  Marshall's in goal for Saturday BTW.

[VillaAlways]

He is very poor under the ball and Blackburn badly exposed him the semi a coupel of seasons ago.

As for your poor recollection of the Stoke games, Guzan played in both - and played far better in the 0-0 than he did in the 1-1.

I'm sure Given was in goal for the home game

You're right - he was. I managed to mis-read the BBC match report that I checked when making my original post.

So to sum up, Guzan did better in the away game against Stoke than Given did in the home game. Sorted.

Correct

[peter w]

The away game where little happened or the home game where Given played well against a barrage of throws and long balls?