Oł est Johnny Deux?

[Olneythelonely]

Sell the midfielder who has the ability to make the quickest decisions with the ball before making a pass, in this new system we are playing?

That would be ridiculous. Makoun is the best midfielder we have by some distance imho.

Not seen him play enough games to make that kinda call.

If Lambert wants to get rid and bring in his own players, then I'll support that.

But you just said you'd get rid of him. Without seeing him play enough to make that kind of call.

That's completely different to saying you'll support the manager if he decides to let him go.

[paul_e]

Sell the midfielder who has the ability to make the quickest decisions with the ball before making a pass, in this new system we are playing?

That would be ridiculous. Makoun is the best midfielder we have by some distance imho.

Not seen him play enough games to make that kinda call.

If Lambert wants to get rid and bring in his own players, then I'll support that.

yep completely agree. He came to the club at the worst possible time. Look at the way things have settled down at the club and the style of football we are trying to play. If he fails now then it was never meant to be. I'm certainly not going to write him off based on Houllier's short era and the disaster of TSM who never even gave him a chance.

Agreed, signings from abroad in january rarely have a massive impact in the first few months.  After the summer would have been the time to judge him, but that never happened thanks to TSM shipping him out at the first opportunity.

So now it's up to Lambert, once things get cleared and he gets over with us PL will have to make the call of whether to try to make the signing s success after a messy 18months or whether to ship him out and get a replacement.

[PaulTheVillan]

Sell the midfielder who has the ability to make the quickest decisions with the ball before making a pass, in this new system we are playing?

That would be ridiculous. Makoun is the best midfielder we have by some distance imho.

Not seen him play enough games to make that kinda call.

If Lambert wants to get rid and bring in his own players, then I'll support that.

But you just said you'd get rid of him. Without seeing him play enough to make that kind of call.

That's completely different to saying you'll support the manager if he decides to let him go.

I said if Lambert wants to get rid of him, then I'd support that.

I'd also support Lambert if he decided to give him a run of games.

It's been messy, so Lambert might have another target in mind and want to cut his losses with Makoun.

[Dave]

No you didn't, you said that as soon as his clearance came through then you would sell him.

[eamonn]

Cut him some slack, he's just had to deal with a doggie death.

[villastikz]

As soon as the international clearance comes through, I'd sell him.

Sorry Paul but you did say you would sell him in a post BEFORE you said

If Lambert wants to get rid of him, then I'd support that

[DrGonzo]

I wouldn't lame Jean II for wanting out.  He arrives under a manager who clearly rated him, was fuc*ed off, by a manager that clearly had no concept of passing football, to Greece.  Only to return to questions over his work permit.  The poor guy's biggest impression to date was that, admittedly, misguided jumper. 

[Percy McCarthy]

Even the manager who 'clearly rated him', bought him even, stopped picking him. At the time I thought that was (yet another) bad decision, but it turned out okay and NRC did well those last few games.

Still, like others, I'm happy for Lambert to make the decision based on much more info and insight than any of us.

[Dan England]

I wouldn't lame Jean II for wanting out.  He arrives under a manager who clearly rated him, was fuc*ed off, by a manager that clearly had no concept of passing football, to Greece.  Only to return to questions over his work permit.  The poor guy's biggest impression to date was that, admittedly, misguided jumper. 

Having got back a week ago I really wish my boss would fuck me off (back) to Greece !

[Dave]

Even the manager who 'clearly rated him', bought him even, stopped picking him. At the time I thought that was (yet another) bad decision, but it turned out okay and NRC did well those last few games.

That's not quite right is it?

He was picked all the way through until his red card against Blackpool, was suspended for three matches, came straight back in, played for three more games then McCallister took over and promptly dropped him.

Unless my memory is playing tricks on me I don't think there was more than a game or so that Houllier didn't choose him for.

[Toronto Villa]

Even the manager who 'clearly rated him', bought him even, stopped picking him. At the time I thought that was (yet another) bad decision, but it turned out okay and NRC did well those last few games.

That's not quite right is it?

He was picked all the way through until his red card against Blackpool, was suspended for three matches, came straight back in, played for three more games then McCallister took over and promptly dropped him.

Unless my memory is playing tricks on me I don't think there was more than a game or so that Houllier didn't choose him for.

and I would add to that by saying that Houllier didn't just buy him for that season. He would have bought him with an eye to playing a certain way, and would likely have bought other players to compliment Makoun's style. Houllier identified Makoun very quickly when he arrived so I'm sure he had a plan for him. The real criminal in all of this is TSM who dumped him by the end of August. That was the first red flag to how he planned on approaching the season and the style in which he wanted to play.

[Percy McCarthy]

Could be my memory playing tricks then. I seem to recall not agreeing with Houllier dropping him, and thinking it was also a bit strange and/or damning, considering he bought him.

[PeterWithesShin]

Having looked it up, by my reckoning he played all but one league game under Houllier apart from when he was suspended. The game he wasn't picked was West Ham where he was an used sub. A few days later Houllier was taken ill and Makoun didn't play again that season he was an unused sub in the first game after GH was ill. The last 4 games he wasn't even on the bench.

[SoccerHQ]

Can't sell him making an impact now.

Not playing in any pre season games puts him way down the pecking order now I'd imagine.

[Percy McCarthy]

Ta PWS. GMac never rated him then, assuming GH had no input into team selection after being taken ill.