I hate the term "haters". It seems to be a chav-fueled social media term which is used to describe anyone who has the slightest bit of criticism for anything else, which is all that is being expressed. Purely on football...Deserving another season? What do you have to do to "deserve more time"? Not delivered for 2 straight seasons, sulked a lot when played out wide, done absoluptly nothing when played in his "best" position. No movement, and Houllier was right about him needing to lose a bit of the bulk, he has lost a good amount of pace, and will never be bright enough to make up for shortfalls as an athlete by having the movement and awareness to make up. He is a lower mid table striker, but never going to be what some think he is. His movement and finishing is simply not up to it the standard needed. If MON offered anything over 8 million I would drive him up there, and would pay the petrol. On sentiment, I would love him to score 20 goals next season, put me right on all that I have written above, and lead us to a top 8 finish. I would love it, because he is Gabby and he is ours. But sentiment should not come into analysing his talent.
Quote from: ozzbert on June 13, 2012, 06:22:43 PMI hate the term "haters". It seems to be a chav-fueled social media term which is used to describe anyone who has the slightest bit of criticism for anything else, which is all that is being expressed. Purely on football...Deserving another season? What do you have to do to "deserve more time"? Not delivered for 2 straight seasons, sulked a lot when played out wide, done absoluptly nothing when played in his "best" position. No movement, and Houllier was right about him needing to lose a bit of the bulk, he has lost a good amount of pace, and will never be bright enough to make up for shortfalls as an athlete by having the movement and awareness to make up. He is a lower mid table striker, but never going to be what some think he is. His movement and finishing is simply not up to it the standard needed. If MON offered anything over 8 million I would drive him up there, and would pay the petrol. On sentiment, I would love him to score 20 goals next season, put me right on all that I have written above, and lead us to a top 8 finish. I would love it, because he is Gabby and he is ours. But sentiment should not come into analysing his talent.THIS!He is not good enough and at the grand old age of 25, he should be doing a lot better. Would Gabby get this much love if he wasnt an AVFC fan? I think not. If we received an offer at around 8m, personally, i'd take it and reinvest in a player who is hungrier and technically better. People used to talk about his pace and how dangerous he is/was, well he has last that yard of pace for ignoring a manager who was advising him correctly. Now what are we left with? A player who has failed to deliver or progress in 2 seasons and is not technically there. He is a serial sulker and I wouldnt be surprised if he was causing some unrest in the dressing room.I still hope he proves me wrong so that I can eat a large slice of humble pie but I dont believe he will.
Size/build doesn't always come at the cost of speed. Usain Bolt is 14 stone for instance.
Must admit that I agree with Oz and Rick. Time to move him on if the right offer is received.
Size/build doesn't always come at the cost of speed. Usain Bolt is 14 stone for instance. In fact, most sprinters are well built.
Quote from: OCD on June 15, 2012, 02:20:10 PMSize/build doesn't always come at the cost of speed. Usain Bolt is 14 stone for instance. In fact, most sprinters are well built. On the rare occasions that Gabby shows up, he's a real handful for defenders (Vidic and Ferdinand usually bring out the best in him) and is strong enough not to be pushed about. I don't think that he would lose much speed by bulking up but his real problems start when he needs to play football. I think it was last season's Fulham game at VP which really showed this up. With Fulham defending deep, Gabby showed no movement or hunger and just seemed happy waiting for a killer through ball from somebody in our own half! Weimann came on and immediately started looking for the ball and linking up play and it made a huge difference. Gabby just kept on sitting on the defender's shoulder and contributed nothing. Weimann scored the winner.Now it may be down to coaching and tactics but most players (specifically Rooney) will look for the ball and try and make something happen. More often than not, Gabby will be as far away from the ball as possible and unavailable.I'd love to see Lambert help him turn it around but as 25 years old, you'd be expecting him to at least the basics well.
How many of the squad actually performed for McLeish? No one really. We know we have some very good players and we have to wait to see what PL can get from them, then see who isn't up to it.
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