Quote from: Paulie Walbert on June 07, 2012, 10:51:17 AMQuote from: Rissbert on June 07, 2012, 10:47:29 AMQuote from: Paulie Walbert on June 07, 2012, 10:37:02 AMSo you want to write him off because he came from the Irish league (as did the other players you mentioned) and because McLeish signed him?Honestly, that seems more than a little bit unfair. It is pretty tough to expect a 21 year old to go from Shamrock Rovers to the Premier League in one jump.We'll see. I'm not writing him off, but the chances are, in common with most of the other reserves and youth players, that he won't make it. That's just pure probability. Even the players who were considered "exceptional" at that level like Albrighton are struggling now."Probably hasn't cost us very much, but still a bit of a waste of everybody's time." seems pretty close to writing off. If it is about pure probability re young players (and I guess it is), then that's something that goes for all of them, not just Stevens.Either way, we'll find out soon enough, I imagineThe fact remains that he didn't feature at all last season, and even allowing for TSM's idiocy, given how poor Warnock was, Stevens wasn't getting a sniff ahead of an out-of-position Lichaj.
Quote from: Rissbert on June 07, 2012, 10:47:29 AMQuote from: Paulie Walbert on June 07, 2012, 10:37:02 AMSo you want to write him off because he came from the Irish league (as did the other players you mentioned) and because McLeish signed him?Honestly, that seems more than a little bit unfair. It is pretty tough to expect a 21 year old to go from Shamrock Rovers to the Premier League in one jump.We'll see. I'm not writing him off, but the chances are, in common with most of the other reserves and youth players, that he won't make it. That's just pure probability. Even the players who were considered "exceptional" at that level like Albrighton are struggling now."Probably hasn't cost us very much, but still a bit of a waste of everybody's time." seems pretty close to writing off. If it is about pure probability re young players (and I guess it is), then that's something that goes for all of them, not just Stevens.Either way, we'll find out soon enough, I imagine
Quote from: Paulie Walbert on June 07, 2012, 10:37:02 AMSo you want to write him off because he came from the Irish league (as did the other players you mentioned) and because McLeish signed him?Honestly, that seems more than a little bit unfair. It is pretty tough to expect a 21 year old to go from Shamrock Rovers to the Premier League in one jump.We'll see. I'm not writing him off, but the chances are, in common with most of the other reserves and youth players, that he won't make it. That's just pure probability. Even the players who were considered "exceptional" at that level like Albrighton are struggling now.
So you want to write him off because he came from the Irish league (as did the other players you mentioned) and because McLeish signed him?Honestly, that seems more than a little bit unfair. It is pretty tough to expect a 21 year old to go from Shamrock Rovers to the Premier League in one jump.
Like the sound of this if true@JamesNursey: Told yesterday at #AVFC that Bent won't be sold, that Lambo backs himself to get N'Zogbia going and that Makoun coming back for new chance
It is pretty tough to expect a 21 year old to go from Shamrock Rovers to the Premier League in one jump.
Quote from: Paulie Walbert on June 07, 2012, 10:37:02 AMIt is pretty tough to expect a 21 year old to go from Shamrock Rovers to the Premier League in one jump.Without sounding funny......Then why sign him in the first place?
Dares more to Ireland dan dis.
Quote from: AvFc4eVeR on June 07, 2012, 11:39:38 AMQuote from: Paulie Walbert on June 07, 2012, 10:37:02 AMIt is pretty tough to expect a 21 year old to go from Shamrock Rovers to the Premier League in one jump.Without sounding funny......Then why sign him in the first place?Because he has potential and came cheap. Doyle, Coleman and Mclean have shown that singing League of Ireland players can be a shred move.
Quote from: Irish villain on June 07, 2012, 11:43:02 AMQuote from: AvFc4eVeR on June 07, 2012, 11:39:38 AMQuote from: Paulie Walbert on June 07, 2012, 10:37:02 AMIt is pretty tough to expect a 21 year old to go from Shamrock Rovers to the Premier League in one jump.Without sounding funny......Then why sign him in the first place?Because he has potential and came cheap. Doyle, Coleman and Mclean have shown that singing League of Ireland players can be a shred move. I really wish the notion that players of 21, 22, 23 etc have potential. They have potential at 16, 17, 18. By the time they get to 21 they should have made the grade or not. They aren't kids anymore!
Don't forget that God McGrath came from the Irish league when Big Ron brought him to ManUtd.