Makoun. Next season.

[frankmosswasmyuncle]

Can't see him coming back under the current manager, and if he does he won't be played.

I am assuming he is on a decent wage, and if keeping wages down is our priority these days, he won't be kept on.

I always thought he looked promising.

[Rip Van We Go Again]

Ireland was given a second chance under a new Manager, i'd like to see the same thing happen for Makoun.

[James]

Did the Greeks get a 'buy' option in the loan deal? If that's the case and they want him, we may no longer have the option of deciding his future!

[ktvillan]

BTW it's clearly bollocks that he only attempted one tackle. What about the penalty at Everton?

The one where Makoun stopped short of a challenge and Jagielka dived and simultaneously deliberately stuck his leg out and raked it against Makoun to claim "there was contact"?  No tackle and certainly not a penalty, the ref was conned / gutless.

[SoccerHQ]

Clampy: even when they were all fit, the manager who bought him (and his assistant) prefered Petrov and NRC. Like I said, I like him, I like neat and tidy footballers, but I think that's pretty damning, and I'm willing to accept that maybe he's not as good as I thought he was after that Man U game.

BTW it's clearly bollocks that he only attempted one tackle. What about the penalty at Everton?

Most signings from abroad made in January tend to need a few months to settle in to the league.  It really hard to judge a player like him on the timespan we saw.  Man U was enough for me to think him, Ireland and a holding player (Herd/Clark/New signing) could form a very strong 3, with makoun and ireland well capable of setting the tempo and getting the team playing exciting football.

Bit of a myth anyway....Makoun started 8 of the first 9 games he was available for. Only started to disappear from the first team in the middle of April and I think he had some family problems back in the Cameroon anyway.

[The Left Side]

I think he needs another shot FWIW

[Rigadon]

Anybody considered the possibility that Makoun didn't fancy here?  Like others have said, he might be worth another look but the last two managers didn't fancy playing him very much and that could be down to something we don't know about.

[Mazrim]

Makoun is ideal in a team that keeps the ball and keeps things ticking over.
Houllier was heading tha way with his Villa team but McLeish is like dropping a big fucking ugly stone in that millpond so I'm not suprised he was considered surplus. If we get a manager in who likes playing to Makouns strengths, then by all means lets get him back.
If we keep McLeish or get another dour manager who plays horrible attritional football then he's useless to us and we may as well cash in.

I'm hoping we get a manager in who wants to entertain and keep the ball though AND THIS TIME STICK WITH THAT PLAN, in which case, Makoun would be a useful squad player.

[Concrete John]

If we do get a new manager, then I'd imagine he'd want to make his own mind up on all the players.  I think Makoun was heading for the door, but if the new guy wants to use him then great.  And if he doesn't, we need to back him and let him mold his own Villa team.

Despite what I said in the Transfer thread yesterday, the same goes for Delph.

[Mazrim]

Agreed. I really hope Delph gets a season free from injury to show what he can do. He really has had no luck and no chance to play consistently as a result.
He was one of the best teenage players I've seen in a long time. That hasn't just disappeared.

One more season, in a hopefully decent Villa team that plays a passing game (his strength).

[Risso]

Agreed. I really hope Delph gets a season free from injury to show what he can do. He really has had no luck and no chance to play consistently as a result.
He was one of the best teenage players I've seen in a long time. That hasn't just disappeared.

One more season, in a hopefully decent Villa team that plays a passing game (his strength).

He looked OK in League 1.  I don't think he's as good as the young players we already had, and Gardner already looks a much better bet.

[Rip Van We Go Again]

I think the slate needs to be wiped clean for everybody on the books, I have serious doubts about Delph but he needs a chance to impress under a proper Manager, not somebody who couldn't organise a two car funeral.

[N'ZMAV]

Herd and Gardner are light years ahead

[London Villan]

Thing is though some of these players have failed to impress 5 managers (MON, KM, GH, GMc, AM)
Delph, Warnock, Beye, Cuellar, Delfonso...

[Concrete John]

Thing is though some of these players have failed to impress 5 managers (MON, KM, GH, GMc, AM)
Delph, Warnock, Beye, Cuellar, Delfonso...

Warnock and Cuellar were regulars under MON, plus fairly regular starters for AM.  And Delph was never expected to make an instant impact given his age and stepping up two divisions and then injuries have held him back somewhat.

I think that although he dropped him, GH was expecting Makoun to play a big part this season, but then he left and AM didn't fancy him.

I think it's a similar story with both Makoun and Delph - there's a decent player in there somewhere, but haven't really shown it for us, so it's up to the (hopefully new) manager to evaluate them and decide if they're worth keeping or not.