Makoun. Next season.

[Dave]

The figure that was confirmed around the time was 5m euros. So I guess it depends on what the exchange was at the time. But presumably you're talking about £4.5m or so.

[gervilla]

I think he deserves another shot with us. Discarded way too early.
Keep him, give him a chance to settle and if by the end of next season , if he isn't up to the job then get rid.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

Wow it got to the fourth post before spurious "can't tackle" fallacy was wheeled out again.  Bases, once again, no doubt, on one bad challenge that got him red carded at Blackpool.  And nothing else. 

That tackle at Blackpool was his only tackle in a Villa shirt. You do the math.

[Dave]

Wow it got to the fourth post before spurious "can't tackle" fallacy was wheeled out again.  Bases, once again, no doubt, on one bad challenge that got him red carded at Blackpool.  And nothing else. 

That tackle at Blackpool was his only tackle in a Villa shirt. You do the math.

Hyperbole is a wonderful linguistic tool but it doesn't really help this particular argument.

By the way, it's "maths".

[PaulTheVillan]

Makoun looked very good against Man Utd away, but United sat back and let us have the ball, knowing we wernt going to do much with it.

When we played Stoke at home Makoun was terrible and went off.

I think he'll be off.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

Wow it got to the fourth post before spurious "can't tackle" fallacy was wheeled out again.  Bases, once again, no doubt, on one bad challenge that got him red carded at Blackpool.  And nothing else. 

That tackle at Blackpool was his only tackle in a Villa shirt. You do the math.

Hyperbole is a wonderful linguistic tool but it doesn't really help this particular argument.

No hyperbole at all, it's a fact. He made (or attempted to make) one tackle.

[Clampy]

If you're going to write off a player over one tackle then we might as well not bother signing anyone else.

[PaulWinch again]

Correct I think it's madness writing him off, he played 7 games that is nowhere near enough. We seem prepared to write him off based on a tackle against Blackpool, but ignore his good display at Old Trafford.

[Clampy]

Correct I think it's madness writing him off, he played 7 games that is nowhere near enough. We seem prepared to write him off based on a tackle against Blackpool, but ignore his good display at Old Trafford.

He was superb up at Old Trafford, from memory i don't remember him giving the ball away.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

If you're going to write off a player over one tackle then we might as well not bother signing anyone else.

That's just silly unless you accept we play a defensive midfielder (assuming that's where you want to play him) that doesn't tackle. He has many other talents but from what he's shown in a Villa shirt, tackling isn't one of them.

Edit: Just to confirm the source (apart from watching the games) was the Guardian's Chalkboard stats.

[TheSandman]

If it's wrong to assume that Makoun isn't good enough for us based on the limited chances that he has had why is it right to assume that he is the magic bullet to solve our problems as quite a few on this thread seemed to have done?

[Dave]

Wow it got to the fourth post before spurious "can't tackle" fallacy was wheeled out again.  Bases, once again, no doubt, on one bad challenge that got him red carded at Blackpool.  And nothing else. 

That tackle at Blackpool was his only tackle in a Villa shirt. You do the math.

Hyperbole is a wonderful linguistic tool but it doesn't really help this particular argument.

No hyperbole at all, it's a fact. He made (or attempted to make) one tackle.

Unless you can come up with something pretty conclusive to back that up then I'm going to assume that it's a silly statement like "Heskey always falls over" or "Collins always hoofs it".

e.g something that isn't true.

[Clampy]

I think that most agree that he should have been given longer to settle before being carted off to Greece. If McLeish is still here next season then we'll no doubt see Jenas back, who's not exactly renowned for his tackling either.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

He was superb up at Old Trafford, from memory i don't remember him giving the ball away.

Indeed. Strangley he then went to Greece and sat on the bench for 3 months, a change of manager didn't help but from what he did show on a rare trip off the bench was enough to have the Olympiacos fans wanting to see him start. Apparently before his injury there was an agreement to sell him at the end of the season for 3m euros.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

Wow it got to the fourth post before spurious "can't tackle" fallacy was wheeled out again.  Bases, once again, no doubt, on one bad challenge that got him red carded at Blackpool.  And nothing else. 

That tackle at Blackpool was his only tackle in a Villa shirt. You do the math.

Hyperbole is a wonderful linguistic tool but it doesn't really help this particular argument.

No hyperbole at all, it's a fact. He made (or attempted to make) one tackle.

Unless you can come up with something pretty conclusive to back that up then I'm going to assume that it's a silly statement like "Heskey always falls over" or "Collins always hoofs it".

For the hard of reading: The Guardian's Chalkboard stats. How silly they are I've no idea.