Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Post-Match Thread

[luke25]

Beyond belief that os article is, our club stinks of inferiority.

[The Situation]

Getting the message out.

[luke25]

Getting the message out.

Shit I was on the row just out of shot, could've got my 15 seconds of fame there.

[johncvilla88]

The last few weeks I come to realise McCleish is staying guaranteed else he would of been sack and no statement from the club backing him would have been released. Therefore we need to give McCleish time to get his own squad in and I'm hoping for 3/4 great players such as the Berbatov/Siguršsson and give him another chance. If he can't manage to attract this kinda quality i think he needs to go but we need to wait and give him the chance.

[Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air]

The manager hailed his players for showing determination and desire to earn the point against the Champions League-chasing aristocrats from the capital.

The above is taken from OUR official website. We have to change our attitude, we're Aston Villa and we're describing that lot as aristocrats on our official website?

Fuck right off.

Wow, that is infuriating. Why is our official site sucking Spurs off?!

The official site seems to be aimed at teenagers. In fact it seems to be written by teenagers.
Be like me and refer to it only for official announcements and ticket info.
If you want to know what's really going on, stick to websites which have the honest rantings of a bunch of proud albeit grumpy old buggers who have seen it all before. Such websites for Villa supporters do exist I understand

[bertlambshank]

Your right the OS is like Shoot written in crayon.

[mikeb1982]

The last few weeks I come to realise McCleish is staying guaranteed else he would of been sack and no statement from the club would have been released. Need to give McCleish time to get his own squad in and I'm hoping for 3/4 great players such as the Berbatov/Siguršsson and give him another chance. If he can't manage to attract this kinda quality i think he needs to go but we need to wait and give him the chance.

After the way we've played this season we won't attract any player of note to come to us.  McLeish does not deserve another chance.  He's had a season littered with truly awful stats, broken "worst ever" records, and if we lose and Bolton win next week, we stay up on goal difference.  That is an absolute disgrace for club like us

[AV82EC]

Interesting day.  Pleased we're safe but McLeish now needs to be sacked as soon after the end of the season as possible.  Todays second half performance must go down as one of the most insipid surrenders McLeish has ever mustered and we've witnessed quite a few this season.

However hats off to the fans today, gave it some good support and well done to the guys and gals in the Lower North who were getting in some good natured banter with the Spurs lot.

I must also say its great to see Rob Yates from Tile Cross back in the Fanzine.  His cutting and insightful analysis of the club leads me to ask that he's considered for a permanent column in the Fanzine next season please?

[PaulWinch again]

The last few weeks I come to realise McCleish is staying guaranteed else he would of been sack and no statement from the club backing him would have been released. Therefore we need to give McCleish time to get his own squad in and I'm hoping for 3/4 great players such as the Berbatov/Siguršsson and give him another chance. If he can't manage to attract this kinda quality i think he needs to go but we need to wait and give him the chance.

No we don't, because I promise firstly we won't get that kind of talent and secondly he couldn't manage it. His entire managerial career shows he couldn't.

[villanic]

The manager hailed his players for showing determination and desire to earn the point against the Champions League-chasing aristocrats from the capital.

The above is taken from OUR official website. We have to change our attitude, we're Aston Villa and we're describing that lot as aristocrats on our official website?

Fuck right off.

Wow, that is infuriating. Why is our official site sucking Spurs off?!

Maybe they've got caught up in the London media obsession with arry redknapp.

[paul_e]

Heskey played well today, give him credit.

We couldn't hold the ball up at all when he went off.

I see this more as a symptom of the play style.  It sums up McLeish well that his teams at bules and villa have played better with a useless, unthreatening, but strong and hard-working striker up front.  In fact, as the season has gone on he's made us look more and more like blues from last season, it's difficult to slag off individuals because no one is playing terribly, but they're all playing well within themselves in a system that is completely ineffective.  We then have 1-2 mistakes at the back and try to put the result down to bad luck.

The guy is totally out of his depth.  At halftime I posted that we were at the point where his influence would shine through, we promptly did exactly what I expected and played for the draw, despite being in the lead.  This may have been acceptable for a few minutes but when they went down to ten we really needed to show some ability to get on the ball and create chances.  The result as is means we're safely in the league next year but McLeish deserves no credit at all for that.

[Dante Lavelli]

Wow, that is infuriating. Why is our official site sucking Spurs off?!

...and that’s coming from “nelrazor1” Ruddock.

[villadelph]

Cuellar just announced that this was his last game at VP.

[django]

I'm prepared to accept that managing a football team might be quite difficult, there are a lot of variables that can influence results and performances and I can forgive failure if the job someone has taken on is beyond them.

What I can't excuse is the sort of inept marketing that the club has been coming out with lately. You may as well publish a thank you letter to 'arry for letting us play his mighty spurs. This is symptomatic of the small time mentality that has become prevalent at our beloved club recently and does make me wonder what the hell is going on down there.

It may seem like small potatoes compared with the absolute clusterfuck that has been our season but it's no wonder that the players look as if they are turning out for some sort of amateur outfit when that is how the club is being run from the top.

[Jimbo]

The manager hailed his players for showing determination and desire to earn the point against the Champions League-chasing aristocrats from the capital.

The above is taken from OUR official website. We have to change our attitude, we're Aston Villa and we're describing that lot as aristocrats on our official website?

Fuck right off.

I spoke about management expectation at Villa before we appointed such a low-ranking coach as McLeish, and I do believe that even though nobody will have been instructed to use language like this, its indicative of how the board is selling the club to the fans of late. We're a plucky medium-sized club that should consider a point at home against the likes of Spurs to be an achievement. Don't go expecting Champions League football any time soon.