Next weeks planned protest - not in my name

[Simba]

A point against Spurs "a great result"?  You are Alex McLeish and I claim my five pounds.

I think it was an unexpected result more than anything. For once, it was a welcome point i suppose.

Even more welcome AFTER the game:

Possession AV 37%
Shots off Av-1  Spuds 10
Corners  AV 4   Spuds 19
Shots on AV 1   Spuds 4

Cue song about only having ten men.

[midnite]

It's an oft-quoted argument by the anti-protest lobby, midnite, but there is no way of proving it one way or the other, so why invoke it?  And I'm not sure anyone has advocated booing the manager all game.  As others have said before, there is no reason why you cannot intersperse vocal support for the the players with vocal criticism of the manager and owner.  I'd like to think the players have the brains to tell the difference.       

Absolutely. And I'm not in the anti protest camp either. I thought the way the villa fans did things yesterday showed we weren't "fickle". Getting behind the team, making sure we kept our premiere league status then letting the board and McLeish know how we feel.

I'm all for carrying it on too at Norwich now we're safe if the fans going to that game feel that's what they want to do.

[TonyD]

Appointing  he was a bad mistake but to keep him for another season would truly be a slap in the face for the fans and the players.

Any protest get my backing.

90 mins of "sack McLeish" at Norwich would be a start.

If come the start of the season he is still manager then a total boycott of the home games is a must. Completely empty Holte End would be a message they couldn't ignore.

[dave.woodhall]

Any protest get my backing.

Seriously - what's your opinion of the abuse the Mcleishout mob are giving to anyone who disagrees with them on Twitter & elsewhere?

[old man villa fan]

Any protest get my backing.

Seriously - what's your opinion of the abuse the Mcleishout mob are giving to anyone who disagrees with them on Twitter & elsewhere?

I believe it is wrong and have never approved of anyone 'shouting down' another.  Their feelings are running high as they are frustrated.  They can see that the majority of fans want a change of manager and cannot understand why the silent majority are not more vocal.

I am frustrated and at times feel as though I am swimming upstream in that I cannot get to the right person to put my opinions across to.

If I was going to the game next week, I would be joining in with voicing opinion against the manager just like I did on the terraces years ago chanting, "The Board Must Go", "Ellis Out" etc.

[dave.woodhall]

Any protest get my backing.

Seriously - what's your opinion of the abuse the Mcleishout mob are giving to anyone who disagrees with them on Twitter & elsewhere?

I believe it is wrong and have never approved of anyone 'shouting down' another.  Their feelings are running high as they are frustrated.  They can see that the majority of fans want a change of manager and cannot understand why the silent majority are not more vocal.

I am frustrated and at times feel as though I am swimming upstream in that I cannot get to the right person to put my opinions across to.

If I was going to the game next week, I would be joining in with voicing opinion against the manager just like I did on the terraces years ago chanting, "The Board Must Go", "Ellis Out" etc.

It strikes me as going way beyond not understanding why others don't agree with them. They seem to be downright abusing, if not threatening, anyone with a different opinion. You can't excuse them because they feel frustrated.

[old man villa fan]

Any protest get my backing.

Seriously - what's your opinion of the abuse the Mcleishout mob are giving to anyone who disagrees with them on Twitter & elsewhere?

I believe it is wrong and have never approved of anyone 'shouting down' another.  Their feelings are running high as they are frustrated.  They can see that the majority of fans want a change of manager and cannot understand why the silent majority are not more vocal.

I am frustrated and at times feel as though I am swimming upstream in that I cannot get to the right person to put my opinions across to.

If I was going to the game next week, I would be joining in with voicing opinion against the manager just like I did on the terraces years ago chanting, "The Board Must Go", "Ellis Out" etc.

It strikes me as going way beyond not understanding why others don't agree with them. They seem to be downright abusing, if not threatening, anyone with a different opinion. You can't excuse them because they feel frustrated.

Didn't realise it was going to that extent.  Twitter is a bit too modern for me.  Hell, never thought I would get up to 700 posts on this site.

[Clampy]

The main agenda that Dazzy G or Warley Wobbler (whatever his name is) brought with him when he joined this site was to lay into everyone who did'nt agree with him to the point where he got offensive. It did'nt help his argument in the slightest.

[Legion]

Giving the leaflets to kids to distribute I thought was well out of order.

[dave.woodhall]

The main agenda that Dazzy G or Warley Wobbler (whatever his name is) brought with him when he joined this site was to lay into everyone who did'nt agree with him to the point where he got offensive. It did'nt help his argument in the slightest.

And he wasn't the only one.

[diand]

I would advocate that, now we are essentially safe, we protest throughout the Norwich game against McLeish as manager. Not using personal slurs against him or the team, but instead focusing on his managerial failings. We make our thoughts known clearly so that Faulkner and Lerner at least have our concerns reinforced for one last time before the season closes.  Polite emails to Faulkner aren't responded to, people in the shop or ticket office don't need to hear it, and quiet shaking of heads, loud tutting and grumbling as we head back to our cars and coaches aren't heard by anyone. For me, alongside McLeish, the biggest threats to Villa are fan apathy and learned helplessness. I respect anyone who doesn't wish to participate, but being able to say at least we tried to influence, even if it proves unsuccessful, has to count?

[SteveD]

I think if McLeish is going, the decision has already been made and next week won't have the slightest influence on Lerner/Faulkener. It's plain fans aren't happy. The empty seats for a lot of this season speak volumes; as will season ticket renewals. That banner, "it's not where you came from it's where you're taking us" seemed to sum up the feelings of many and is eloquent enough. I've been uncomfortable with some personal abuse McLeish has been getting, and some of it started before he had a chance. He's carried himself well under a lot of stress. His record speaks for itself though and after the last season there needs to be change. He hardly got a ringing vote of confidence after the Bolton game and the way we have staggered over the line suggests he will be "mutually consented" in time honoured Villa fashion. It's all about who we hire (the last two appointments don't fill me in confidence) and whether they will be able to strengthen properly so we don't get a repeat of the last two seasons' dire football and relegation fears.

[UK Redsox]

Giving the leaflets to kids to distribute I thought was well out of order.

Gwen the quality of teaching in the Midlands, I doubt that the kids could read the leaflets anyway.

There's teachers I know in the area who don't even know where Norwich is.   

[Legion]

Giving the leaflets to kids to distribute I thought was well out of order.

Gwen the quality of teaching in the Midlands, I doubt that the kids could read the leaflets anyway.

There's teachers I know in the area who don't even know where Norwich is.   

I told you it's in East Anglia. Please pay closer attention.

[ktvillan]

A point against Spurs "a great result"?  You are Alex McLeish and I claim my five pounds.

I know that we could've won the game with the red card and taking the lead etc. But can you really say that you wouldn't have been chuffed with the point before the game? Spurs are one of the best teams in the country, and while we're in the position we find ourselves in, I think it's ridiculous to not be delighted with getting something out of that game.

I'd guess most people are happy with the point that more or less guarantees safety but it's the fact we've fallen this low, where we're "delighted" to be getting a point at home to Spurs, even though they were a man down and a goal down for half the game.  And they still played us off the park.  Doesn't that tell you something about how low Lerner and McLeish have taken us, with barely a peep of protest from the majority of fans?  Dribbler is spot on, if you silently accept garbage and turn up for more, you will continually be fed garbage.  And you can't say you don't deserve it.