Next weeks planned protest - not in my name

[danlanza]

With about 10/15 mins to go. A supporter over on the Doug Ellis stand came off his seat, walked up to the advertising barrier, said something and then threw his season ticket card into the pitch before storming out.

Wow, what a gesture, throwing your ST card onto the pitch at the end of the last home game of the season! That's telling 'em!

And that makes our season ok then? Fuck me,I still don't get it!

[mjlions]

He might need it next season we don't always get new ones.

[diand]

Well, congratulations to those who asked for no protests and to "get behind the boys" PR spin from the Club. You got your way, only a couple of minutes dissent at the final whistle today and it looks like McLeish is staying. Well done. Perhaps we should start writing our strongly worded letters to Mr Faulkner now? Dont forget to be polite as our beloved Club continues to sink further down the pan.

[lovejoy]

Well, congratulations to those who asked for no protests and to "get behind the boys" PR spin from the Club. You got your way, only a couple of minutes dissent at the final whistle today and it looks like McLeish is staying. Well done. Perhaps we should start writing our strongly worded letters to Mr Faulkner now? Dont forget to be polite as our beloved Club continues to sink further down the pan.

You sound disappointed we drew and are safe?

No amount of negativity from the stands would change the attitude of the owner so surely it was good we didn't cut our nose in spite of our face.

[PeterWithesShin]

Indeed, a big congratulations to those who got behind the boys. The support today may well have helped get the point that kept us up.

[diand]

Of course I'm not disappointed we are safe - I'm taking a view that is bigger than one game. But I don't call it negativity either; I call it having a voice. The Club played a very clever PR card to silence protests because the media were starting to turn against McLeish and they didn't like it. We have "got behind the boys" all season. But, at least without our negativity we can have another season of McLeish, in all likelihood. Leave the negativity on the pitch eh?

[Pete3206]

Well, congratulations to those who asked for no protests and to "get behind the boys" PR spin from the Club. You got your way, only a couple of minutes dissent at the final whistle today and it looks like McLeish is staying. Well done. Perhaps we should start writing our strongly worded letters to Mr Faulkner now? Dont forget to be polite as our beloved Club continues to sink further down the pan.

Protest away if it floats your boat.

[lovejoy]

Of course I'm not disappointed we are safe - I'm taking a view that is bigger than one game. But I don't call it negativity either; I call it having a voice. The Club played a very clever PR card to silence protests because the media were starting to turn against McLeish and they didn't like it. We have "got behind the boys" all season. But, at least without our negativity we can have another season of McLeish, in all likelihood. Leave the negativity on the pitch eh?

Do you really think that no protest today means another season of AMcl but if there was loud protests today it would have been different? They'll sack him or they won't. A minority of fans shouting abuse today would make no difference. If you think it would you are deluding yourself.

[diand]

Well, it doesn't particularly "float my boat" but, looking at the season rather than just one match, is there anything wrong in trying to express disapproval and disappointment, as long as it is civil? It might not change anything, but doing nothing certainly won't.

[diand]

Of course I'm not disappointed we are safe - I'm taking a view that is bigger than one game. But I don't call it negativity either; I call it having a voice. The Club played a very clever PR card to silence protests because the media were starting to turn against McLeish and they didn't like it. We have "got behind the boys" all season. But, at least without our negativity we can have another season of McLeish, in all likelihood. Leave the negativity on the pitch eh?

Do you really think that no protest today means another season of AMcl but if there was loud protests today it would have been different? They'll sack him or they won't. A minority of fans shouting abuse today would make no difference. If you think it would you are deluding yourself.

I didn't hear anyone shouting abuse - just protesting. But you're right, one match wouldn't change anything; we should have been protesting much longer.  Doing nothing hasn't really worked has it (unless McL is about to go and I am happily wrong)?

[midnite]

The board will sack McLiesh if they decide he is now incapable of doing his job. Not because a group of fans say they don't want him as manager anymore.

Today was about getting behind the team and making sure we stumble over the finish line.

[diand]

The board will sack McLiesh if they decide he is now incapable of doing his job. Not because a group of fans say they don't want him as manager anymore.

Today was about getting behind the team and making sure we stumble over the finish line.

As fans we are also 'customers': plummeting home attendances, possible reductions in season ticket renewals. Voicing discontent in of itself might not impact, but taken in conjunction with these issues then yes, I think protests might help. The notion of learned helplessness - we can't really influence these things - seems to me a bit of a cul de sac.

[Dante Lavelli]

I’d be amazed if the club where not aware of the fan’s discontent as they’ve been canvasing ST holders for months now.  Ultimately, the combination of the dire football and the reduction in ticket sales next year will be the most significant factor. 

The protest will help to an extent but I’d hate for Villa to end up looking like Blackburn, surely there are more humorous ways that could have been adopted? 

[Simba]

EFFDEE said:
"Yes, and the crazy thing is that there are so many other arguments which would hit home more effectively.
Re McLeish:
- 2 relegations from threee seasons, with a third threatening in four.
- His three outfield-player purchases (including Jenas) have failed to ignite the team.
Re the season:
- Highest number of draws in the division: 33% more than the next team (Sunderland).
 - Lowest number of goals-scored in the bottom 6 clubs (and only surpassed by Stoke in the whole division).
- Villa's worst-ever league home record.
- A numbing stlye of football.
- VP crowds down by 9% (I think) this season."

Some more for you:-
Total shots - 18th in  Prem
Shots on:- 19th  !
Goals:- 19th
Possession, Last stat:- 15th 45.1%
Lowest ever Prem points

and remember when Bent was  playing he had the least touches of the ball than ANY other prem player.

Who cares where he came from; the stats reflect the boring, turgid, defensive minded, uninspired and cowardly approach that is his hallmark.  No wonder he and Grant have alienated the fans and almost relegated us.

[Slaphead]

The players have been shite all season, I doubt singing anti-McLeish songs now would make much difference to their performance. Anti-support during the game would atleast have shown how angry we actually are.

Also if Blackburn had sacked their manager much earlier on into the campaign then they would have stood a much better chance of staying up.