Next weeks planned protest - not in my name

[dave.woodhall]

Having the collective name MOMS adds real gravitas to their message I find. MOMS. MOMS

Your mom.

[KevinGage]

I think the timing is fine.

And a protest to keep the pressure on as ozzjim said has merit.

But the 'we told you so,' nature of the thing is unnecessary.   And it would be difficult of them to suggest that where he came from has no bearing on their campaign with a group name like that.

Pan him for the truly horrendous football, the results and the increasing volume of lame and desperate excuses he's trotting out.  Linking his unpopularity to his previous club will only result in more 'they never gave him a chance' type guff that Collywobbles and co have been vomiting out.

[dave.woodhall]

I think the timing is fine.

And a protest to keep the pressure on as ozzjim said has merit.

But the 'we told you so,' nature of the thing is unnecessary.   And it would be difficult of them to suggest that where he came from has no bearing on their campaign with a group name like that.

Pan him for the truly horrendous football, the results and the increasing volume of lame and desperate excuses he's trotting out.  Linking his unpopularity to his previous club will only result in more 'they never gave him a chance' type guff that Collywobbles and co have been vomiting out.

Question one: Is it because of where he came from?
No.
Question two: Where did your name MOMS come from?
A song.
Question three: Would you care to repeat the lyrics of said song?

No further questions m'lud.

[Dave Cooper please]

I think the timing is fine.

And a protest to keep the pressure on as ozzjim said has merit.

But the 'we told you so,' nature of the thing is unnecessary.   And it would be difficult of them to suggest that where he came from has no bearing on their campaign with a group name like that.

Pan him for the truly horrendous football, the results and the increasing volume of lame and desperate excuses he's trotting out.  Linking his unpopularity to his previous club will only result in more 'they never gave him a chance' type guff that Collywobbles and co have been vomiting out.

Question one: Is it because of where he came from?
No.
Question two: Where did your name MOMS come from?
A song.
Question three: Would you care to repeat the lyrics of said song?

No further questions m'lud.

Bears repeating.

[Pete3206]

I think it's funny they've blown £600 on that.

Yep, I saw that and thought, is that it? How about a banner saying "Come On You Lions" ?

[Mister E]

Question one: Is it because of where he came from?
No.
Question two: Where did your name MOMS come from?
A song.
Question three: Would you care to repeat the lyrics of said song?

No further questions m'lud.

Yes, and the crazy thing is that there are so many other arguments which would hit home more effectively.
Re McLeish:
- 2 relegations from threee seasons, with a third threatening in four.
- His three outfield-player purchases (including Jenas) have failed to ignite the team.
Re the season:
- Highest number of draws in the division: 33% more than the next team (Sunderland).
 - Lowest number of goals-scored in the bottom 6 clubs (and only surpassed by Stoke in the whole division).
- Villa's worst-ever league home record.
- A numbing stlye of football.
- VP crowds down by 9% (I think) this season.

The rational arguments are pretty powerful and have not been well-rehearsed in the media generally and so are worth repeating.
As you say, the MOMS message points back to the tired cliche about McLeish's previous employment.

[UK Redsox]

Having the collective name MOMS adds real gravitas to their message I find. MOMS. MOMS

Your mom.

"Mom" is leading the protest ?!?

[andyh]

Good luck to the protestors today. I hope they get their message across.

[cdbearsfan]

These protesters make us look so small-time.

Their obsession with Small Heath is just bizarre.

[caster troy]

These protesters make us look so small-time.

Their obsession with Small Heath is just bizarre.

The group running the protest today don't have a Small Heath obsession, they shouldn't be confused with whoever took out that advert.

[Pete3206]

These protesters make us look so small-time.

Their obsession with Small Heath is just bizarre.

What he said.

[cdbearsfan]

Ok, fair enough.

That said, I don't see the point of this protest.

Blackburn have spent the entire season protesting against the manager. They're going down.

Wolves got rid of their manager while still in the thick of a relegation battle. They're going down.

Why not wait till the end of the season, when we're safe, to protest? He'll probably be gone then anyway.

[caster troy]

Ok, fair enough.

That said, I don't see the point of this protest.

Blackburn have spent the entire season protesting against the manager. They're going down.

Wolves got rid of their manager while still in the thick of a relegation battle. They're going down.

Why not wait till the end of the season, when we're safe, to protest? He'll probably be gone then anyway.

I guess it's to do with profile, media coverage etc will be higher on matchdays. Fans will be at the game from all over the country anyway and it's a lot more difficult to co-ordinate a protest at a time when there isn't a match on. We are virtually safe and I imagine that anyone protesting will also back the players with full support for the 90 minutes, well unless we are 5-0 down at half time.

Protests haven't helped Blackburn but their fall from grace isn't as dramatic as ours so maybe their owners will take a different view to Lerner, after all each club and situation is different. Have Blackburn just had their worst home season ever? Wolves gambled but couldn't get a manager in which was their downfall.

As for 'he'll probably be gone anyway' many have doubts this will be the case so we have to take the threat of him staying seriously.

[cdbearsfan]

Do you seriously think Lerner doesn't know McLeish is unpopular with the fans?

I think the protest would get MORE coverage in the summer. Sky will have bugger all else to talk about as they cry and sulk about not having the Euro 2012 rights. Nobody will pay the slightest bit of attention to Villa today. Sky will be focussing entirely on the plight of the Manchester clubs.

[caster troy]

Do you seriously think Lerner doesn't know McLeish is unpopular with the fans?

I think the protest would get MORE coverage in the summer. Sky will have bugger all else to talk about as they cry and sulk about not having the Euro 2012 rights. Nobody will pay the slightest bit of attention to Villa today. Sky will be focussing entirely on the plight of the Manchester clubs.

Well from what I've heard he won't be sacked, even if as you say it is obvious the fans aren't happy, so we may as well vent our frustrations and not look back thinking 'I wish we'd protested.' Maybe you are right about the media coverage, it's hard to say, but for me I'd rather protest on a matchday than have to make a separate trip down to Villa Park on a random night in June, so I'm all for it.