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Author Topic: Next weeks planned protest - not in my name  (Read 57302 times)

Offline Oscar Arce

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Re: Next weeks planned protest - not in my name
« Reply #90 on: April 30, 2012, 11:40:51 AM »
I totally agree.
Forget protests and forget McLeish, any messages have been received by Lerner by now, so everyone, please, just get behind the team on Sunday.

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Re: Next weeks planned protest - not in my name
« Reply #91 on: April 30, 2012, 11:42:12 AM »
Totally agree with getting behind the team and can't see why that can't be done whilst giving McLeish some sh*t. It could be his last game at home and deserves one last F*ck *ff out of Villa Park.

See i'm not sure how that works tbh. How do you aim nasty chants at the manager for 90 minutes and still  produce an atmosphere where the players will feel the fans are behind them

It happened at Wigan.  90 minutes of great support for the team, interspersed with the odd quick song letting McLeish know what we thought of him. 

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Re: Next weeks planned protest - not in my name
« Reply #92 on: April 30, 2012, 11:47:09 AM »
Sorry not getting off your seat to attempt to give instructions because your worried about a reaction, to me is just
not on, he is at the moment still AVFC's manager and should carry out his duties as normal, if that is not possible, he should do the decent thing and go, before the next match.

He may have been a poor manager for us but I don't believe McLeish could be accused of lacking balls or not wanting to do right by his players.
He didn't want a bad atmosphere starting but was hardly likely to put that in print.
If he was a coward, as some have said, he could have gone in the Directors Box.

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Re: Next weeks planned protest - not in my name
« Reply #93 on: April 30, 2012, 12:03:57 PM »
I always think that paying money and then protesting isn't that effective. Yes it gets the message across about how many of the fans feel and may tip the balance at the end of the day, but to get the owners to really stand up and take notice, you need to hit them in the wallet, where it really hurts.

That said, until we are mathematically safe then we should go and support the team, but whatever the result for the spurs game, we should make our feelings known. Hopefully the decision has already been made, but we need to make sure.   

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Re: Next weeks planned protest - not in my name
« Reply #94 on: May 05, 2012, 02:57:39 AM »
I'm really unhappy that the back page is going to say "We Told You So"

That's so cheap and and immature. No wit and nothing but combative.

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Re: Next weeks planned protest - not in my name
« Reply #95 on: May 05, 2012, 02:27:57 PM »
FFS why protest before such an important game?  Everyone knows he's gone in the Summer and RL knows we don't want him so what's the point? 

Support the team.

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Re: Next weeks planned protest - not in my name
« Reply #96 on: May 05, 2012, 02:53:22 PM »
FFS why protest before such an important game?  Everyone knows he's gone in the Summer and RL knows we don't want him so what's the point? 

Support the team.

I think people thinking that are in for a shock. Only keeping up the pressure will ensure he is gone.

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Re: Next weeks planned protest - not in my name
« Reply #97 on: May 05, 2012, 02:56:40 PM »
Yep it's definitely not a foregone conclusion that he's gone, even though it should be. Pressure needs to be maintained.

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Re: Next weeks planned protest - not in my name
« Reply #98 on: May 05, 2012, 03:10:36 PM »
That advert from MOMS in the Mail frightens me. Nobody like being told "We told you so" Worried it will provoke another siege mentality from the board

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Re: Next weeks planned protest - not in my name
« Reply #99 on: May 05, 2012, 03:46:30 PM »
From the Guardian
The problems continue to pile up for Alex McLeish after it emerged that Aston Villa supporters have taken the unprecedented step of paying for an advert on the back page of Saturday's Birmingham Mail expressing discontent to the board about the manager's postion. The advert, which was taken out by members of the Villa Supporter's Group 'My Old Man Said' (MOMS) cost £600 and carries the line "We were really hoping never to say this but... WE TOLD YOU SO". MOMS was formed in the wake of the initial protest against McLeish's appointment last summer and has picked up 3,500 members on Facebook. The group has also been campaigning for a Villa v Celtic charity match for Stilian Petrov, who was diagnosed with leukaemia at the end of March.
A backdrop of more fan dissatisfaction is just about the last thing McLeish needs ahead of Sunday's crucial home game against Tottenham Hotspur and on the back of the unsavoury events off the field earlier this week that saw Chris Herd, James Collins and Fabian Delph involved in a drunken brawl outside a Birmingham nightclub after the club's end-of-season awards ceremony.
McLeish described the latter incident as a "slur on the club" and said that the trio, who have all publicly apologised, "owe the Villa fans a massive performance". It is quite possible, however, that none of them will start against Spurs. Delph has been on the periphery for some time, Collins has only just resumed training after recovering from a groin injury and it would not be a surprise if McLeish felt that Herd should lose his place as well as two weeks' wages. Collins has also been fined a fortnight's money while Delph, who was sober and has claimed that he was acting as a peacemaker, is believed to have been docked a week's pay.
It has been a hugely embarrassing episode for Villa at a time when the club are fighting relegation and emotions are running high among the supporters. "We won't tolerate that kind of behaviour," McLeish said. "It's a slur on the club. I feel for Randy Lerner [the club's owner], for the fans of Aston Villa FC. The players have got to show some respect for themselves and for their profession."
McLeish had a problem with Ben Foster and Colin Doyle 12 months ago, when he was in charge of Birmingham and the club were embroiled in a relegation scrap, although on that occasion the players had been out partying but had not got into any trouble.
He said that he never anticipated for one moment that he would have an issue with the Villa players on Monday night. "There was alcohol in the suite but not on the players' tables. I thought, naively perhaps, that they would all just go home. I left quite early to drive home. I was shocked to hear the news in the morning. I think the expectations were that they wouldn't do it.
"I would have thought they would have seen what happened last year at Birmingham and wouldn't have even thought about going out. It just became unbelievable. They know they have been crazy."

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Re: Next weeks planned protest - not in my name
« Reply #100 on: May 05, 2012, 04:09:38 PM »
I'm really unhappy that the back page is going to say "We Told You So"

That's so cheap and and immature. No wit and nothing but combative.

This new generation of protestors do seem to go out of their way to alienate anyone who disagrees with them.

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Re: Next weeks planned protest - not in my name
« Reply #101 on: May 05, 2012, 04:17:41 PM »
Sadly, irrespective of any adverts, chanting, leafleting and protests, the only person to get a manager to lose their jobs is the manager themselves.

A poor record speaks for itself.

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Re: Next weeks planned protest - not in my name
« Reply #102 on: May 05, 2012, 04:18:30 PM »
I think it's funny they've blown £600 on that.

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Re: Next weeks planned protest - not in my name
« Reply #103 on: May 05, 2012, 04:22:21 PM »
I'm more disapointed with the timing of it than the advert itself.

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Re: Next weeks planned protest - not in my name
« Reply #104 on: May 05, 2012, 05:05:47 PM »
Having the collective name MOMS adds real gravitas to their message I find. MOMS. MOMS

 


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