Quote from: ktvillan on April 26, 2012, 02:40:41 PMI see where you are coming from to an extent DC5, but on the other hand, our best chance of staying up might be to ditch McLeish now, because a change often brings a fresh impetus. And our best chance of doing that might be if everyone in the ground lets Randy and Faulkner know they want him out in no uncertain terms. But you have a point, maybe wait until the last 10 minutes or so and only give it the verbals if it looks like yet another cock up.The club’s statement is pretty specific that he is going no-where for the next three games. So whilst you might be right it’s not going to happen so get behind the team and hope we can muddle through despite everything else.
I see where you are coming from to an extent DC5, but on the other hand, our best chance of staying up might be to ditch McLeish now, because a change often brings a fresh impetus. And our best chance of doing that might be if everyone in the ground lets Randy and Faulkner know they want him out in no uncertain terms. But you have a point, maybe wait until the last 10 minutes or so and only give it the verbals if it looks like yet another cock up.
Our away support is brilliant. There will be no lack of encouragement at WBA or at Norwich.
Quote from: damon green on April 26, 2012, 04:53:23 PMOur away support is brilliant. There will be no lack of encouragement at WBA or at Norwich.I've been to three away games this season, Wigan, Blackburn and Arsenal. The away support was great at all three but sadly. the performances mostly didn't match the support. If we go down, it won't be because of anything the fans have or haven't done.
the crowd were scrupulously fair on Tuesday night, I thought. It was quite clear who was the object of their scorn, and it wasn't the players. No sane, impartial observer can blame the club's supporters for what's happened this season. The support has been there at the ground. A bit of whingeing on TalkSport and a bit of online hyperbole are irrelevant.
Quote from: Dave McLark Five on April 26, 2012, 12:30:48 PMQuote from: ktvillan on April 26, 2012, 08:38:57 AMQuote from: Dave McLark Five on April 25, 2012, 11:30:56 PMIt is either dignity or go down. A time for cool heads all round.Sorry that's nonsense Dave. They are not mutually exclusive, we can show all the dignity we like but could still go down. It is possible to protest with dignity - see Villa revolution 1968 - but I've absolutely nothing against people venting their feelings at the game the other night,or any other game, because it's the best way to let that idiot owner and his lickspittle know how the fans feel. It may or may not affect the performance, only the players can tell you the true answer to that one, but they can hardly play any worse than they have been recently. And I believe ultimately it's in the best interests of the club to do anything to rid it of that incompetent manager. Sometimes you have to endure pain to get the gain. For me, if we are going down, it's better to go with a fight than with a whimper - to quote a famous poet - "Do not go gentle into that good night. Rage, rage against the dying of the light".All I am saying is that, if we want to stay up, we must get behind the team for the remaining games as nobody could possibly play in the atmosphere as it was at the end of the Bolton game. If all hope has gone, as it had after 80 odd minutes the other night, then letting rip can do no further damage.Those who would prefer that we go down and rebuild might think differently and that is up to them.The atmosphere at the end of the Bolton game did not cause or contribute to the result.
Quote from: ktvillan on April 26, 2012, 08:38:57 AMQuote from: Dave McLark Five on April 25, 2012, 11:30:56 PMIt is either dignity or go down. A time for cool heads all round.Sorry that's nonsense Dave. They are not mutually exclusive, we can show all the dignity we like but could still go down. It is possible to protest with dignity - see Villa revolution 1968 - but I've absolutely nothing against people venting their feelings at the game the other night,or any other game, because it's the best way to let that idiot owner and his lickspittle know how the fans feel. It may or may not affect the performance, only the players can tell you the true answer to that one, but they can hardly play any worse than they have been recently. And I believe ultimately it's in the best interests of the club to do anything to rid it of that incompetent manager. Sometimes you have to endure pain to get the gain. For me, if we are going down, it's better to go with a fight than with a whimper - to quote a famous poet - "Do not go gentle into that good night. Rage, rage against the dying of the light".All I am saying is that, if we want to stay up, we must get behind the team for the remaining games as nobody could possibly play in the atmosphere as it was at the end of the Bolton game. If all hope has gone, as it had after 80 odd minutes the other night, then letting rip can do no further damage.Those who would prefer that we go down and rebuild might think differently and that is up to them.
Quote from: Dave McLark Five on April 25, 2012, 11:30:56 PMIt is either dignity or go down. A time for cool heads all round.Sorry that's nonsense Dave. They are not mutually exclusive, we can show all the dignity we like but could still go down. It is possible to protest with dignity - see Villa revolution 1968 - but I've absolutely nothing against people venting their feelings at the game the other night,or any other game, because it's the best way to let that idiot owner and his lickspittle know how the fans feel. It may or may not affect the performance, only the players can tell you the true answer to that one, but they can hardly play any worse than they have been recently. And I believe ultimately it's in the best interests of the club to do anything to rid it of that incompetent manager. Sometimes you have to endure pain to get the gain. For me, if we are going down, it's better to go with a fight than with a whimper - to quote a famous poet - "Do not go gentle into that good night. Rage, rage against the dying of the light".
It is either dignity or go down. A time for cool heads all round.
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