Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Post-Match Thread

[David_Nab]

His crossing his best atribute has gone from him completely .last time he looked decent was coming on against Chelsea so for now coming on as a sub is best for him.

Think we would be better with a solid 3 man midfield Clark,herd Ireland and gabby and nzog supporting Weimann or Heskey

[villadelph]

He's had a lot of slack for a while Albrighton being a local Villa lad.  Truth hurts though.

I think we've some good young players like Clark, Lichaj, Herd and Weimann, probably Gardner too - but not Marc i'm afraid.

He was the only youngster that seemed to be able to cut it last year, and now he's like a chicken without a head. What do they do all day, I don't get it... how is this kid incapable of putting a ball in the box. If we had a goal for every time he put his hands to his face after a mistake we'd be top of the league.

[Chris Harte]

If you could see the summary of Phil McNulty's tweets (on the BBC Sport site) you'd think the fans had been barracking that manager of ours constantly. The reality is that they turned en mase in the last five minutes.

It seems to suit the media to say that we've never given him a chance. While its undoubtedly true for a minority, I'd say the majority have been exceptionally patient with him, despite the worst home record in the club's history.

[damon loves JT]

It's just a way for the media to attack the manager by proxy. They don't have the balls to say to AM in the post-match: 'you're shit, aren't you?' Instead they put on a sympathetic face and say: 'did you hear the terrible things the crowd were chanting? About you being shit? Isn't it awful?'

[David_Nab]

Can't belive it took untill last night to see journos on my Twitter feed finally stick the boot in and relize we are in serious danger of relegation.what's that now 13 games with no win ...wake up Randy FFs

[villadelph]

If Warnock wouldn't have help up that damn two after he scored we wouldn't have given up two goals in two minutes.

[UK Redsox]

Who gave away the penalty ?

Telegraph

The lead lasted barely a minute. Alan Hutton’s reckless challenge on Mark Davies gave Chris Foy one of the easiest decisions he will make this season and Martin Petrov dispatched his fifth goal of the campaign from the spot.

Da Beeb

As the home fans celebrated, Bolton drew level, Petrov scoring from the spot after Mark Davies was pulled down by Carlos Cuellar.

[batucada]

Coyle hit out at the reaction of the Villa fans towards McLeish and branded their reaction "poisonous".
 
He said: "It is not a nice part of football. We have the best game in the world and that sort of thing is something I would like to eradicate.
 
"Surely there is an onus on you as a person to make your point without being poisonous about it."

Owen Coyle - stay out of our business !

Look on the positive side. He knows MacSheesh is now a dead man walking.

How else do you make your feelings felt? It's why terrorists are so extreme. Unless you do something really outrageous no-one takes any notice.
The answer I feel is simply for everyone to stop paying to watch and dont go to the games.

[puppyfeat]

Stats don't tell us everything obvs, but I thought these from last night were revealing:

Possession: Villa 48%, Bolton 52%
Shots: Villa - 17, Bolton - 12
On target: Villa - 6, Bolton - 11

Pathetic at any time, but especially under the circumstances and given the opposition.

As for McLeast, maybe it's just me but he looks to me like he's sitting pretty: he knows we can't sack him now, probably can't afford to sack him if we go down (and he has a good record getting teams promoted, as the Championship is the level that suits his 'talents' best), and if he manages to keep us up he'll claim he did a great job under an extremely challenging set of circumstances (ie. lack of cash, losing Bent/Stan at crucial time, fan hatred etc).

[nigel]

Stats don't tell us everything obvs, but I thought these from last night were revealing:

Possession: Villa 48%, Bolton 52%
Shots: Villa - 17, Bolton - 12
On target: Villa - 6, Bolton - 11

Pathetic at any time, but especially under the circumstances and given the opposition.

As for McLeast, maybe it's just me but he looks to me like he's sitting pretty: he knows we can't sack him now, probably can't afford to sack him if we go down (and he has a good record getting teams promoted, as the Championship is the level that suits his 'talents' best), and if he manages to keep us up he'll claim he did a great job under an extremely challenging set of circumstances (ie. lack of cash, losing Bent/Stan at crucial time, fan hatred etc).

Where were those stats from, puppy?
I know it makes no difference, but, there's no way Bolton had 52% poss, and as for shot I remember 4 of their 12 being off target.
But the bottom line is: the only stat that matters is the one which reads 1-2 

[puppyfeat]

Stats don't tell us everything obvs, but I thought these from last night were revealing:

Possession: Villa 48%, Bolton 52%
Shots: Villa - 17, Bolton - 12
On target: Villa - 6, Bolton - 11

Pathetic at any time, but especially under the circumstances and given the opposition.

As for McLeast, maybe it's just me but he looks to me like he's sitting pretty: he knows we can't sack him now, probably can't afford to sack him if we go down (and he has a good record getting teams promoted, as the Championship is the level that suits his 'talents' best), and if he manages to keep us up he'll claim he did a great job under an extremely challenging set of circumstances (ie. lack of cash, losing Bent/Stan at crucial time, fan hatred etc).

Where were those stats from, puppy?

Scroll down to Match Stats http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17737838

[darren woolley]

The first half we should have been two or three up why couldn't we continue like that in the second half it baffles me.

[Chris Jameson]

If Warnock wouldn't have help up that damn two after he scored we wouldn't have given up two goals in two minutes.

I didn't understand a word of that!

[Chris Harte]

It's just a way for the media to attack the manager by proxy. They don't have the balls to say to AM in the post-match: 'you're shit, aren't you?' Instead they put on a sympathetic face and say: 'did you hear the terrible things the crowd were chanting? About you being shit? Isn't it awful?'

Here's another attack by proxy then, from BBC's Sportsday Live feed:

Chief Football Writer Phil McNulty has written about what he witnessed at Villa Park last night during Bolton's 2-1 victory over Aston Villa: "One respected Villa media observer of almost 20 years standing had no hesitation in declaring this was the worst abuse he had heard directed at a manager of the club in that time."

Five minutes of abuse is the worst they've seen in twenty years? Really?

[JUAN PABLO]

Agree OzVilla.

Come Sunday morning here, if we have beaten the boggies then I will forgive today. I just can't see it happening though. Lets hope Collins, Ireland and Gabby are all fully fit.
After tonight both Cuellar and Albrighton need to be dropped. Both of them were s*^t.   

that bloody Cuellar header to their goalie , second half , just summed it all up . hopeless