ManUre v Aston Villa Match Thread

[VillaAlways]

My God the Villa fans look depressed already

[Rigadon]

Right then, here we go chaps.  Feeling brave?

[Toronto Villa]

I like how us not playing 442 is apparently negative. Someone should tell Barca that they line up negatively because they don't play 442..

People on here desperately dig for a reason to hate McLeish, nothing out of the ordinary.

Not that I'm his biggest fan, but he's certainly become a 'can do no right' character.

While I agree with you, he's not helped himself in what he's done this season or by much of what he's said. Even if in his heart he knows we are not good enough right now, his attitude should still be one of "fuck it let's have a go anyway". That tactic would win us games against most teams in this league. Too often you felt he waved the white flag in his pre-match interviews, with his team selection and in his excuses. I'll put it on record that I want the man to succeed and be the best Villa manager of all time, and get the better of his critics. However, it all starts with him, not us.

[James]

Our lowest premier league points total is 42, well done McLeech, seems that you're going to set another new record for the club, along with least number of home wins in a season in more than a century!

Matt Kendrick interviewed on R5 spoke very well about his failings and shoved down the 'He came from B-Lose' argument!

Even the R5 commentators are calling us Aston Vanilla, and that detestable little Welsh (I can say that, I'm Welsh!) twat Savage needs sorting out!

[Villanation]

Can only assume that he's making sure Cuellar/N'Zogbia are right for the two home games.

That said, this is Man Utd, we go down badly and the knock on effect could be a disaster, we should put our best possible side out, this is precisely the kind of thing that bothers me about McLeish, its that pick the game you can win gamble and raise the white flag for this one, sure Wigan didn't have that way of looking at it.

[TaxDodger]

We're going to win. Lol.

[Toronto Villa]

I don't have an issue with the media to be honest. You get wha you deserve and they are going talk about the popular topics and ridicule those that warrant it. Right now it's painful to hear, but as club we are getting little or no press because frankly we're irrelevant, and nothing more than a sideshow. It's much easier to slam fans for being anti-McLeish for his blues connection than examine the facts. They are given us less than 15 seconds and it's about as deep into the plight of Villa as they want to go.

[Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air]

no worries, there is a sky link as well here: http://www.time4tv.net/2011/09/sky-sports-1.html

Excellent link, hope it stays for the duration. Better than I get down the pub.

[Chipsticks]

I like how us not playing 442 is apparently negative. Someone should tell Barca that they line up negatively because they don't play 442..

People on here desperately dig for a reason to hate McLeish, nothing out of the ordinary.

Not that I'm his biggest fan, but he's certainly become a 'can do no right' character.

While I agree with you, he's not helped himself in what he's done this season or by much of what he's said. Even if in his heart he knows we are not good enough right now, his attitude should still be one of "fuck it let's have a go anyway". That tactic would win us games against most teams in this league. Too often you felt he waved the white flag in his pre-match interviews, with his team selection and in his excuses. I'll put it on record that I want the man to succeed and be the best Villa manager of all time, and get the better of his critics. However, it all starts with him, not us.

I completely understand and agree that he's got himself into this situation, and that he has made plenty of mistakes and been a complete arse for many months, though we have by no means helped him. I still think at times we've played good football, or at least tried, and that once he's had time to bring in his own players we could be a good side again.

Recently he seems to have woken up, and is getting a bit more wise with his tactics and substitution, and I feel like if we gave 'Eck a chance he could do well for us.

[levico]

This is where our superior goal difference largely goes up in smoke.

[PeterWithesShin]

Can only assume that he's making sure Cuellar/N'Zogbia are right for the two home games.

That said, this is Man Utd, we go down badly and the knock on effect could be a disaster, we should put our best possible side out, this is precisely the kind of thing that bothers me about McLeish, its that pick the game you can win gamble and raise the white flag for this one, sure Wigan didn't have that way of looking at it.

He's probably picked our best fit side. What else can he do apart from risk players who aren't fit?
Imagine the shit he'd get if he picked Carlos and after 5 minutes he's out for the rest of the season because he does his injury again.

[Dave Cooper please]

Still 0-0.

[Chipsticks]

C'mon you lions.

[Rigadon]

The Mr-T haircut appears to have become popular with some premier league footballers.

[Dave Cooper please]

C'mon you lions.

Shh, minutes silence, have some respect.