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Re: Return of O'Neill - divided opinion
« Reply #720 on: May 07, 2012, 06:08:01 PM »
Thirty five year old Kevin Davies on a 3 and a half year contract for £60k a week sounds about right.


I'd take Davies, but i seriously doubt whether he'd get £60k a week here .....  :D

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Re: Return of O'Neill - divided opinion
« Reply #721 on: May 07, 2012, 06:11:45 PM »
To put it in a more optimistic way Davey B, if MON starts buying young French/German/Mongolian players that he then coaches to play a variety of ways then you’ve got one of THE best managers in the world.  I just think he is too stubborn to change, and without changing there is a ceiling to what he can achieve.

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Re: Return of O'Neill - divided opinion
« Reply #722 on: May 07, 2012, 06:14:31 PM »
When the buzz of finishing above us has faded, I wonder how he'll feel about the prospect of  mid>lower half of the table for the foreseeable.


What buzz of finishing above Villa? You aren't our nearest and dearest, and I'm certainly not gloating if that is what you feel??? I geniunelly like Villa, and we have f#ck all to gloat about to be honest. Mid-table mediocrity ...... think its relief at not being in the relegation battle as per usual, but think we desperately need the deadwood moving, and better quality bringing in to move us up the table further. Desperate for strikers at the minute.

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Re: Return of O'Neill - divided opinion
« Reply #723 on: May 07, 2012, 06:16:19 PM »
I wouldn’t be surprised if MON went for Gabby.  It’s a good fit, for all parties.

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Re: Return of O'Neill - divided opinion
« Reply #724 on: May 07, 2012, 06:16:34 PM »
When the buzz of finishing above us has faded, I wonder how he'll feel about the prospect of  mid>lower half of the table for the foreseeable.


What buzz of finishing above Villa? You aren't our nearest and dearest, and I'm certainly not gloating if that is what you feel??? I geniunelly like Villa, and we have f#ck all to gloat about to be honest. Mid-table mediocrity ...... think its relief at not being in the relegation battle as per usual, but think we desperately need the deadwood moving, and better quality bringing in to move us up the table further. Desperate for strikers at the minute.

Now where/when did I hear something similar?

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Re: Return of O'Neill - divided opinion
« Reply #725 on: May 07, 2012, 06:17:31 PM »
Next time you score, have a look at the bench and see if any of his backroom staff are jumping up and dancing around like he is.

Why Dave? I'm not following your gist here mate!  :-[

I think Dave's probably saying that O'Neill and his perceived success isn't nearly as popular within the four walls of his club as it appears to outsiders.

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Re: Return of O'Neill - divided opinion
« Reply #726 on: May 07, 2012, 06:18:07 PM »
When the buzz of finishing above us has faded, I wonder how he'll feel about the prospect of  mid>lower half of the table for the foreseeable.


What buzz of finishing above Villa? You aren't our nearest and dearest, and I'm certainly not gloating if that is what you feel??? I geniunelly like Villa, and we have f#ck all to gloat about to be honest. Mid-table mediocrity ...... think its relief at not being in the relegation battle as per usual, but think we desperately need the deadwood moving, and better quality bringing in to move us up the table further. Desperate for strikers at the minute.

I think he meant MON rather than Sunderland fans.

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Re: Return of O'Neill - divided opinion
« Reply #727 on: May 07, 2012, 06:18:53 PM »
I would agree with Davey at the moment. I still wouldn't want MON back though. It will be interesting to see how Sunderland develop over the next couple of seasons.

This is the point we are all at now, WILL he be allowed to develop the side the way we want to see it developed? The "PETERING-OUT" run in has shown clearly what Bruce has left us with, and despite all the rightly or wrongly shown ill-feeling by some on here, he without a doubt needs to overhaul the squad.

Exactly.  That’s the bit you want to be worried about.  His scouting is limited at best and (at Villa) he rarely looked for outside advice.  So if you’re lucky enough to have a decent scouting network he will ignore it and do his own thing = limited players from the UK on big money.

You should also be worried about his lack of coaching, that is actually training the players.  To this end, he rarely trusts youngsters and buys 26 years olds so that he does not have to develop their games too much.

He is excellent, the best, at the man-management and motivation of his core squad, but anyone on the periphery will be jettisoned, regardless of their ability or indeed how knackered the core 15 players are.

Mmmm, well like i say, this is the point where we are at. We have a core of players to build upon, but need to strengthen further. If we don't, then we are back to being yoyo's i'm afraid! 

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Re: Return of O'Neill - divided opinion
« Reply #728 on: May 07, 2012, 06:19:51 PM »
I'd take Davies as well, I've never seen him have a bad game against us.

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Re: Return of O'Neill - divided opinion
« Reply #729 on: May 07, 2012, 06:21:02 PM »
When the buzz of finishing above us has faded, I wonder how he'll feel about the prospect of  mid>lower half of the table for the foreseeable.


What buzz of finishing above Villa? You aren't our nearest and dearest, and I'm certainly not gloating if that is what you feel??? I geniunelly like Villa, and we have f#ck all to gloat about to be honest. Mid-table mediocrity ...... think its relief at not being in the relegation battle as per usual, but think we desperately need the deadwood moving, and better quality bringing in to move us up the table further. Desperate for strikers at the minute.
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Now where/when did I hear something similar?
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 ;D  He didn't bring these ones in, but i take your point!  ;)

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Re: Return of O'Neill - divided opinion
« Reply #730 on: May 07, 2012, 06:21:05 PM »
You need strikers. Emile Heskey released in the summer. Be afraid Davey, be very afraid!

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Re: Return of O'Neill - divided opinion
« Reply #731 on: May 07, 2012, 06:22:23 PM »
You need strikers. Emile Heskey released in the summer. Be afraid Davey, be very afraid!

Mwah-ha-ha-ha! He's very versatile you know

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Re: Return of O'Neill - divided opinion
« Reply #732 on: May 07, 2012, 06:22:54 PM »
I wouldn’t be surprised if MON went for Gabby.  It’s a good fit, for all parties.

It's been mooted, but at the minute i think nearly everything is just newspaper speculation! Mind i have this horrible feeling in my gut that we could take Heskey on a free!  :-\

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Re: Return of O'Neill - divided opinion
« Reply #733 on: May 07, 2012, 06:24:52 PM »
You need strikers. Emile Heskey released in the summer. Be afraid Davey, be very afraid!

PMSL, i posted my previous post prior to reading this Pete! Believe me, i am, very afraid!  ;D

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Re: Return of O'Neill - divided opinion
« Reply #734 on: May 07, 2012, 06:25:01 PM »
We'll pay you to have him. Then again, we've hardly got any uninjured strikers left at the moment...

 


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