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Offline atomicjam

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Re: McLeish confident of avoiding the drop
« Reply #150 on: April 07, 2012, 01:46:57 PM »
All that guff about how much he loves 'experienced players' (ie old, shit, obedient and uninspired) just makes you wonder what part of his interview gave the board the impression that he was the man to develop our young players. He's only playing the kids now, when he's forced to, throwing them in at the deep-end of a season made shit by under-performing seniors who retained their places no matter how arse they were. The time to play the kids and 'make them men' (but not better players, it seems) would have been in games when, for instance, Lichaj could have come in for the out-of-sorts Hutton, when Baker could have stepped in for the shite Collins, when Heskey (nuff said) was preferred in midfield to Bannan and Gardner. It's a bloody shambles, he's fucked it up big time, and what the board were thinking is absolutely fucking beyond me.

Agree 100%.

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Re: McLeish confident of avoiding the drop
« Reply #151 on: April 07, 2012, 02:03:50 PM »
All that guff about how much he loves 'experienced players' (ie old, shit, obedient and uninspired) just makes you wonder what part of his interview gave the board the impression that he was the man to develop our young players. He's only playing the kids now, when he's forced to, throwing them in at the deep-end of a season made shit by under-performing seniors who retained their places no matter how arse they were. The time to play the kids and 'make them men' (but not better players, it seems) would have been in games when, for instance, Lichaj could have come in for the out-of-sorts Hutton, when Baker could have stepped in for the shite Collins, when Heskey (nuff said) was preferred in midfield to Bannan and Gardner. It's a bloody shambles, he's fucked it up big time, and what the board were thinking is absolutely fucking beyond me.

Agree 100%.

Offline VinnieChase84

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Re: McLeish confident of avoiding the drop
« Reply #152 on: April 07, 2012, 02:05:52 PM »
This is from the Birmingham post on June 23rd 2011 from AM
“It’s about trading carefully for the benefit and future of the club, getting the club to a competitive state in terms of where we are in the league.

“We want to get up that league as high as we can and compete in the cup competitions. I’m not sure that we’ll get the whole lot (of Young’s transfer fee), but there will be funds available.


As high as we can!? Doesn't sound like someone anticipating the 'relegation fight' and always knew it would be tough 'spin' that we are now being fed by him!
A load of bollocks comes out that guys mouth and somehow every time he speaks I find myself disliking him more and more

Offline Damo70

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Re: McLeish confident of avoiding the drop
« Reply #153 on: April 07, 2012, 02:14:56 PM »
I just don't understand how someone who was an integral part of Alex Ferguson's 'little' Aberdeen side who became Scotlands best team and a force in Europe can be so negative and defeatist as a manager. Surely a strong winning mentality and belief you can beat anybody anywhere was a huge part of his playing success.

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Re: McLeish confident of avoiding the drop
« Reply #154 on: April 07, 2012, 02:23:53 PM »
All that guff about how much he loves 'experienced players' (ie old, shit, obedient and uninspired) just makes you wonder what part of his interview gave the board the impression that he was the man to develop our young players. He's only playing the kids now, when he's forced to, throwing them in at the deep-end of a season made shit by under-performing seniors who retained their places no matter how arse they were. The time to play the kids and 'make them men' (but not better players, it seems) would have been in games when, for instance, Lichaj could have come in for the out-of-sorts Hutton, when Baker could have stepped in for the shite Collins, when Heskey (nuff said) was preferred in midfield to Bannan and Gardner. It's a bloody shambles, he's fucked it up big time, and what the board were thinking is absolutely fucking beyond me.

Agree 100%.
Also agree 100%. Infact there doesn't seem to be anybody else than I know of who would disagree with any part of that. By any measure this season has been a disaster and I really can't believe that the Board don't see it too regardless of how little we think of Faulkner et al. They clearly need to act promptly and decisively and remove the buffoon before it's too late and if they don't I would like to know why they think that Mcleish is the man to help us avoid relegation, leave alone move the club forward next season - I'd just like to know why they still seem to think that he's the man to do the job of managing our club.
For the life of me I just don't understand.

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Re: McLeish confident of avoiding the drop
« Reply #155 on: April 07, 2012, 09:46:44 PM »
If the club are to invest in the squad this sumer, please don't let McLeish spend it. No creativity, just dull, hard working players.  The hard work is ok, as long as there is an end product.  Sadly, with this Manager, there isn't a great deal of it.  I can't wait for this season to end.  Terrible season.

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Re: McLeish confident of avoiding the drop
« Reply #156 on: April 07, 2012, 10:34:00 PM »
One win should do it.

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Re: McLeish confident of avoiding the drop
« Reply #157 on: April 07, 2012, 10:38:53 PM »
If the club are to invest in the squad this sumer, please don't let McLeish spend it. No creativity, just dull, hard working players.

You mean like N'Zogbia and Keane?

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Re: McLeish confident of avoiding the drop
« Reply #158 on: April 07, 2012, 10:40:54 PM »
Ironically,Keane will be the reason that we stay up

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Re: McLeish confident of avoiding the drop
« Reply #159 on: April 07, 2012, 11:34:38 PM »
If the club are to invest in the squad this sumer, please don't let McLeish spend it. No creativity, just dull, hard working players.

You mean like N'Zogbia and Keane?

How well has nzogbia been used though?

How many points did we get during the games Keane was here?  (Don't get me wrong, Keane played well but he made no difference to the results really).

Offline Tokyo Sexwhale

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Re: McLeish confident of avoiding the drop
« Reply #160 on: April 07, 2012, 11:39:56 PM »
Keane scored twice against Wolves, and we won 3-2 - so that's 3 points.

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Re: McLeish confident of avoiding the drop
« Reply #161 on: April 07, 2012, 11:42:41 PM »
Keane scored twice against Wolves, and we won 3-2 - so that's 3 points.

Not really sure that works, though. You could equally say Weimann scored against Fulham, so that's 3 points too.

Weimann is therefore the man who kept us up.

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Re: McLeish confident of avoiding the drop
« Reply #162 on: April 07, 2012, 11:49:28 PM »
Keane scored twice against Wolves, and we won 3-2 - so that's 3 points.

Not really sure that works, though. You could equally say Weimann scored against Fulham, so that's 3 points too.
Two points.

Obviously the whole idea is very flawed though. He could have played Heskey instead of Keane who could have scored five.

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Re: McLeish confident of avoiding the drop
« Reply #163 on: April 07, 2012, 11:57:52 PM »
Obviously the whole idea is very flawed though. He could have played Heskey instead of Keane who could have scored five.

*nods*


*thinks*

hey, waittaminute!

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Re: McLeish confident of avoiding the drop
« Reply #164 on: April 07, 2012, 11:59:48 PM »
Fair's fair. Those five might well be over the next 70 games that Heskey plays against Wolves.

And in my pessimistic state, I'm expecting him to stay with us for long enough to achieve that.

 


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