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Offline The Laughing Policeman

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Re: McLeish confident of avoiding the drop
« Reply #60 on: April 06, 2012, 12:01:43 PM »
Im embarrassed you lot know Dire strait songs ;)
Just to please you I'll move it up a notch.
Maybe when Randy signed up McLeish he was suffering from ' A Momentary Lapse Of Reason'.

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Re: McLeish confident of avoiding the drop
« Reply #61 on: April 06, 2012, 12:04:18 PM »
Perhaps Randy cousl find a Sultan and Swing a deal for the club.

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Re: McLeish confident of avoiding the drop
« Reply #62 on: April 06, 2012, 12:05:56 PM »
Im embarrassed you lot know Dire strait songs ;)
Just to please you I'll move it up a notch.
Maybe when Randy signed up McLeish he was suffering from ' A Momentary Lapse Of Reason'.

And so are you i think, that's Pink Floyd.

edit. Ah, i see what you were doing there, my apologies.
« Last Edit: April 06, 2012, 12:09:46 PM by Clampy »

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Re: McLeish confident of avoiding the drop
« Reply #63 on: April 06, 2012, 12:05:58 PM »
If you want us to stay up, give the manager your support.


Its not rocket science is it?

If it were you'd be sending your astronauts straight at the sun.

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Re: McLeish confident of avoiding the drop
« Reply #64 on: April 06, 2012, 12:06:14 PM »
Not my job to say who, but I would suggest an owner that makes terrible appointments and is now tightening the purse strings, is not the best option. I like the guy but surely we can do better.


It's easy to say 'we can do better' but how many better owners are there, and how many more are available?

I still don't think RL has done a bad job, but if he is going to leave the day-to-day running of the club in the hands of a proxy for 95% time, I just wish he would chose someone with a better understanding and knowledge of English/European football.

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Re: McLeish confident of avoiding the drop
« Reply #65 on: April 06, 2012, 12:09:25 PM »
Im embarrassed you lot know Dire strait songs ;)
Just to please you I'll move it up a notch.
Maybe when Randy signed up McLeish he was suffering from ' A Momentary Lapse Of Reason'.

And so are you i think, that's Pink Floyd.
Yes it is Pink Floyd. Maybe I should have said in my post that I wanted to raise the standard of musical comparisons.
Oops we both posted our clarifications at the same time.  Absolute proof that great minds do think alike. 8)
« Last Edit: April 06, 2012, 12:15:39 PM by The Laughing Policeman »

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Re: McLeish confident of avoiding the drop
« Reply #66 on: April 06, 2012, 12:09:34 PM »

I still don't think RL has done a bad job...

Where's that boggle eyed emoticon when you need it.  Did you go on the same selection and recruitment course as Faulkner and Lerner?

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Re: McLeish confident of avoiding the drop
« Reply #67 on: April 06, 2012, 12:13:11 PM »
Not my job to say who, but I would suggest an owner that makes terrible appointments and is now tightening the purse strings, is not the best option. I like the guy but surely we can do better.


It's easy to say 'we can do better' but how many better owners are there, and how many more are available?

I still don't think RL has done a bad job, but if he is going to leave the day-to-day running of the club in the hands of a proxy for 95% time, I just wish he would chose someone with a better understanding and knowledge of English/European football.


That's the one thing that has been a problem since he took over. Nobody in senor management has any great experience of football.

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Re: McLeish confident of avoiding the drop
« Reply #68 on: April 06, 2012, 12:16:40 PM »
Not my job to say who, but I would suggest an owner that makes terrible appointments and is now tightening the purse strings, is not the best option. I like the guy but surely we can do better.


It's easy to say 'we can do better' but how many better owners are there, and how many more are available?

I still don't think RL has done a bad job, but if he is going to leave the day-to-day running of the club in the hands of a proxy for 95% time, I just wish he would chose someone with a better understanding and knowledge of English/European football.


That's the one thing that has been a problem since he took over. Nobody in senor management has any great experience of football.


Indeed - and that's playing or administrating. I always look at Lyon for an example of how good senior management can raise the glass ceiling of a club, and they have this brilliant team of scouts, football directors etc - I think about two of whom played professionally.

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Re: McLeish confident of avoiding the drop
« Reply #69 on: April 06, 2012, 12:21:01 PM »
More should have been done to convince Stride to stick around.

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Re: McLeish confident of avoiding the drop
« Reply #70 on: April 06, 2012, 12:24:35 PM »
Im embarrassed you lot know Dire strait songs ;)
We're playing Albion soon, the sultans of ming.

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Re: McLeish confident of avoiding the drop
« Reply #71 on: April 06, 2012, 12:32:57 PM »
Perhaps the thread should be called "McLeish confident of avoiding the drop, this season".  But with his experience, I'm sure he'll reach his goal next season.

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Re: McLeish confident of avoiding the drop
« Reply #72 on: April 06, 2012, 01:45:45 PM »
Not my job to say who, but I would suggest an owner that makes terrible appointments and is now tightening the purse strings, is not the best option. I like the guy but surely we can do better.


It's easy to say 'we can do better' but how many better owners are there, and how many more are available?

I still don't think RL has done a bad job, but if he is going to leave the day-to-day running of the club in the hands of a proxy for 95% time, I just wish he would chose someone with a better understanding and knowledge of English/European football.


That's the one thing that has been a problem since he took over. Nobody in senor management has any great experience of football.


Indeed - and that's playing or administrating. I always look at Lyon for an example of how good senior management can raise the glass ceiling of a club, and they have this brilliant team of scouts, football directors etc - I think about two of whom played professionally.

Perhaps it is worth having a proper Director of Football who can oversee the youth development and teams, the reserves, all scouting and training facilities etc and co-ordonate these to work towards the same goals; but to work with and not step on the toes of the manager. Even someone like Houllier might have been an ideal candidate for a role like this.

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Re: McLeish confident of avoiding the drop
« Reply #73 on: April 06, 2012, 01:54:02 PM »
Not my job to say who, but I would suggest an owner that makes terrible appointments and is now tightening the purse strings, is not the best option. I like the guy but surely we can do better.


It's easy to say 'we can do better' but how many better owners are there, and how many more are available?

I still don't think RL has done a bad job, but if he is going to leave the day-to-day running of the club in the hands of a proxy for 95% time, I just wish he would chose someone with a better understanding and knowledge of English/European football.


That's the one thing that has been a problem since he took over. Nobody in senor management has any great experience of football.


Indeed - and that's playing or administrating. I always look at Lyon for an example of how good senior management can raise the glass ceiling of a club, and they have this brilliant team of scouts, football directors etc - I think about two of whom played professionally.

Perhaps it is worth having a proper Director of Football who can oversee the youth development and teams, the reserves, all scouting and training facilities etc and co-ordonate these to work towards the same goals; but to work with and not step on the toes of the manager. Even someone like Houllier might have been an ideal candidate for a role like this.

Problem being Houllier was on a reported £4m a year and McLeish £2m, for that £6m will could hopefully attract one decent manager rather than two duds.

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Re: McLeish confident of avoiding the drop
« Reply #74 on: April 06, 2012, 02:03:57 PM »
Not my job to say who, but I would suggest an owner that makes terrible appointments and is now tightening the purse strings, is not the best option. I like the guy but surely we can do better.


It's easy to say 'we can do better' but how many better owners are there, and how many more are available?

I still don't think RL has done a bad job, but if he is going to leave the day-to-day running of the club in the hands of a proxy for 95% time, I just wish he would chose someone with a better understanding and knowledge of English/European football.


That's the one thing that has been a problem since he took over. Nobody in senor management has any great experience of football.


Indeed - and that's playing or administrating. I always look at Lyon for an example of how good senior management can raise the glass ceiling of a club, and they have this brilliant team of scouts, football directors etc - I think about two of whom played professionally.

Perhaps it is worth having a proper Director of Football who can oversee the youth development and teams, the reserves, all scouting and training facilities etc and co-ordonate these to work towards the same goals; but to work with and not step on the toes of the manager. Even someone like Houllier might have been an ideal candidate for a role like this.

Problem being Houllier was on a reported £4m a year and McLeish £2m, for that £6m will could hopefully attract one decent manager rather than two duds.

I think Lerner was prepared to pay the right salary for a top manager but wasn't able to fund the transfer budget they would have wanted.

The current situation is even as a $billionaire he's not rich enough to buy success, so the only sensible approach in my view would have been to appoint a management team capable of growing the club organically by developing scouting networks, etc perhaps run by a DoF by any other name.

 


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