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Author Topic: Do you have ANY faith left in McLeish ?  (Read 46629 times)

Offline N'ZMAV

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Re: Do you have ANY faith left in Mcleish ?
« Reply #120 on: April 03, 2012, 03:45:34 PM »
What about that 'next big thing' at Wigan... what's his name...

Offline Fergal

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Re: Do you have ANY faith left in Mcleish ?
« Reply #121 on: April 03, 2012, 03:46:08 PM »
WHY HAS MY THREAD BEEN LOCKED!!!!???????
FASCISTS!!!
EVERYONE ELSE HAS GOT A MACTWAT THREAD!!!!
Just start a thread on another subject, it will soon turn into one...
Like me Fergal you don't appear to be one of the chosen few  :D
I beg to differ, look at the threads I have started....

Offline Fergal

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Re: Do you have ANY faith left in Mcleish ?
« Reply #122 on: April 03, 2012, 03:49:59 PM »
WHY HAS MY THREAD BEEN LOCKED!!!!???????
FASCISTS!!!
EVERYONE ELSE HAS GOT A MACTWAT THREAD!!!!
Just start a thread on another subject, it will soon turn into one...
Like me Fergal you don't appear to be one of the chosen few  :D
I beg to differ, look at the threads I have started....
Joking aside the moderation on this forum is pretty easy going and light handed. Other sites have a yellow and red card system for those who disagree with the mods. On here you can disagree with a mod, just keep it in Pm.

Offline Concrete John

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Re: Do you have ANY faith left in Mcleish ?
« Reply #123 on: April 03, 2012, 03:49:59 PM »
What about that 'next big thing' at Wigan... what's his name...

Didn't we already sign him for £3.5m and £60k a week?

Offline Holte L2

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Re: Do you have ANY faith left in Mcleish ?
« Reply #124 on: April 03, 2012, 03:50:23 PM »
That's a good shout.

Lambert and Rodgers will be very much in demand right now, so maybe our better path is to source the next omne coming through early?

What about Brian McDermott at Reading? Seems to be doing a great job and comes across really well when ive seen him interviewed.

AVEC82 is the spitting image of Brian McDermott!!

Offline Dante Lavelli

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Re: Do you have ANY faith left in Mcleish ?
« Reply #125 on: April 03, 2012, 03:51:39 PM »
That's a good shout.

Lambert and Rodgers will be very much in demand right now, so maybe our better path is to source the next omne coming through early?

What about Brian McDermott at Reading? Seems to be doing a great job and comes across really well when ive seen him interviewed.

My preference would be to take a risk on one of the up and coming managers - solskjear, poyet, atkins, McDermott - but on the proviso that they are primarily the first team coach and another person is appointed to build a proper footballing structure at the club. 

Offline Dante Lavelli

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Re: Do you have ANY faith left in Mcleish ?
« Reply #126 on: April 03, 2012, 03:53:28 PM »
What about that 'next big thing' at Wigan... what's his name...

Victor Moses?
We should have snapped him up when he left palace for peanuts.

Offline Concrete John

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Re: Do you have ANY faith left in Mcleish ?
« Reply #127 on: April 03, 2012, 03:55:09 PM »
That's a good shout.

Lambert and Rodgers will be very much in demand right now, so maybe our better path is to source the next omne coming through early?

What about Brian McDermott at Reading? Seems to be doing a great job and comes across really well when ive seen him interviewed.

My preference would be to take a risk on one of the up and coming managers - solskjear, poyet, atkins, McDermott - but on the proviso that they are primarily the first team coach and another person is appointed to build a proper footballing structure at the club.

I'm all for that, but would be concerned about who the club would appoint to that position.  Houllier should have been offered such a role.

Offline villanic

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Re: Do you have ANY faith left in Mcleish ?
« Reply #128 on: April 03, 2012, 03:58:59 PM »
That's a good shout.

Lambert and Rodgers will be very much in demand right now, so maybe our better path is to source the next omne coming through early?

What about Brian McDermott at Reading? Seems to be doing a great job and comes across really well when ive seen him interviewed.

My preference would be to take a risk on one of the up and coming managers - solskjear, poyet, atkins, McDermott - but on the proviso that they are primarily the first team coach and another person is appointed to build a proper footballing structure at the club.

I posted something similar yesturday saying that maybe we would have been better of keeping houllier as director of football in charge of transfers etc. and a young coach to concentrate on coaching the team.

Offline N'ZMAV

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Re: Do you have ANY faith left in Mcleish ?
« Reply #129 on: April 03, 2012, 04:00:40 PM »
What about that 'next big thing' at Wigan... what's his name...

Didn't we already sign him for £3.5m and £60k a week?
*shudders*

Offline Dante Lavelli

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Re: Do you have ANY faith left in Mcleish ?
« Reply #130 on: April 03, 2012, 04:03:01 PM »
I'm all for that, but would be concerned about who the club would appoint to that position.  Houllier should have been offered such a role.

That was my suggestion at the time.

The obvious man for me is Southgate.  He's been the head of elite development at the FA for a year or two now.  From his tweets and interviews I have read this basically entails travelling the world attending coaching conferences for the development of young players and coaching coaches.  He's also a bright and driven young man so I could imagine him having the ability to run a whole club.  Then there is the obvious villa connection.

Elsewhere both Cruff and Klinnsman are working as consultants for clubs in Mexico and the MLS.  They could be called do a similar job at villa.

Offline villadelph

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Re: Do you have ANY faith left in Mcleish ?
« Reply #131 on: April 03, 2012, 04:53:36 PM »
Is this a serious question?

We're on our back foot playing defense for 80 minutes a game. We can barely muster up a single chance. What's there to have confidence in, his free flowing football at Hibs?

Offline villanic

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Re: Do you have ANY faith left in Mcleish ?
« Reply #132 on: April 03, 2012, 05:08:33 PM »
They’re talking about us on talksport drive time in a bit. Asking if AM is taking us down?

Offline Rigadon

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Re: Do you have ANY faith left in Mcleish ?
« Reply #133 on: April 03, 2012, 05:10:23 PM »
I thought there was a chance he could be our Moyes - hard to beat, gritty with some flair on the break.

That belief was dented after the shamefully inept 'performance' at Spurs, further dented against Man Utd at home and almost destroyed when witnessing our utter incompetence against Swansea at home.  All 3 of those games were down to tactical bollock-drops - the latter the most telling as it contrasted a bizarre tactic of standing off a ball-playing team at home against a progressive, new boy in Rodgers making a team most predicted would struggle to win 3 games all season into an attractive, winning team.  I can't work out if his coaches are awfully out of touch or it's McLeish himself as he waves his arms and talks about how we need to improve.   

I'd still like him to succeed, but I just don't see how he could.  For that reason I think it's right he should go at the end of the season.  It has been a gamble that hasn't worked and almost certainly will not work in future.

The fact we're talking about relegation is everything you need to know about the job he's done, despite some of the shitty luck he's had. 

Offline Big Dick Edwards

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Re: Do you have ANY faith left in Mcleish ?
« Reply #134 on: April 03, 2012, 05:20:12 PM »
I have always said he has to be given time.
 
I do feel it was the wrong move by Randy, an unpopular choice with very little chance of success given the constraints he'd have to work under.
But, he still came, despite all the constraints, that took some balls. And I feel that is the reason why he must be given time, not endless, but he must have the chance to build his team and not be expected to be using MO'Ns players 5 years on.
Personally I'd say until Christmas next season. By then his team should be in place and if we're struggling then maybe that will be the time for Randy to decide.



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