Aston Villa fans' group in call to join protest against Alex Mcleish

[ktvillan]

MONS IX I'd hardly say being a bit better than the bottom four clubs means Kean has turned Blackburn around.

Can you think of any better ideas than a protest?  The alternative seems to be to get behind the team.  I can only imagine the message the owners would get from that, if they are even listenign at all,  is that everyone is happy and everything is tickety boo.  To me it's the equivalent of fiddling while Rome burns.

[dave.woodhall]

The trouble with the 'protest outside, support inside' idea is that just about every protestor I've known has taken their miseryarsedness into the ground and been the first to moan at kick-off. It also means that the game gets overshadowed by the event. What's wrong with just getting behind the team? The manager isn't going anywhere so it's wasted energy. 

[godzvilla]

I think it's interesting how this thread has developed since the last time a protest was planned.
Then, the organiser's  and potential protesters were called wankers and all sorts. We has subsequent threads called 'not in my name' and all sorts of indignation.
Now, I don't think the protest will have an effect or that there will there be a great turnout, but the attitude on here does seem to have 'mellowed' towards it.

Most assuredly 'Wankers' and most definitely  ' Not in my name '  ..............satisified now ?! ..........Godzvilla ! ( a proud and supportive Villan , I like to think ) .

[MonsXI]

MONS IX I'd hardly say being a bit better than the bottom four clubs means Kean has turned Blackburn around.

Can you think of any better ideas than a protest?  The alternative seems to be to get behind the team.  I can only imagine the message the owners would get from that, if they are even listenign at all,  is that everyone is happy and everything is tickety boo.  To me it's the equivalent of fiddling while Rome burns.

Bottom at Xmas to 3 points above the drop is a turn around in my view.

I think protests as soon as the season is done not before or during games. Randy and his lapdog of a CEO will take more notice of 500/1000 people turning up to VP when there's not a game on compared to a few people hanging around the McGregor statue shouting a few obscenities before paying for tickets, programme and refreshments.

A big demo on the 26th of May the 30th anniversary of our greatest triumph might hammer the point home.

[MarkM]

The manager isn't going anywhere so it's wasted energy. 

Did we consider all those years of 'Ellis-Out' protests a waste of energy? H&V was at the forefront of that.

I can still remember when we voted Ellis off the board on a show of hands, we were all delighted and I even remember a certain editor doing a kicking heals together jig. Even though we knew we had only scored a small extremely time limited victory it didnt seem to be a waste of energy.

So maybe RL will take notice if a large number of people attend.

[ktvillan]

The trouble with the 'protest outside, support inside' idea is that just about every protestor I've known has taken their miseryarsedness into the ground and been the first to moan at kick-off. It also means that the game gets overshadowed by the event. What's wrong with just getting behind the team? The manager isn't going anywhere so it's wasted energy. 

Difficult to say if the protesters you have known is a representative sample.  And from what I've seen and heard there's plenty of people moaning about the rubbish being served up at every game, protest or no protest.   What's wrong with just supporting the team is exactly as I've said above, it will give the owners and everyone else the  message that everything is fine, supporters are happy little bunnies, who will still turn up and wave their flags and scarves whatever garbage is thrown at them.  I'm struggling to envisage how getting behind the team is going to turn Heskey into a midfielder, or even a striker that can score occasionally, how it's going to stop Warnock playing like a headless chicken, and mostly how it's going to overcome tactics of camping in your own half and playing for a narrow defeat at home.

[dave.woodhall]

I've known the leading lights of just about every protest from 1968 onwards, and the veterans of the older ones are a million miles removed from tomorrow's lot. Meanwhile, what you're saying is heading down the road of "You're not a real supporter if you don't protest." 

[olaftab]

As much as I don't like McLeish and would be happy to see the back of him I will never join such an action that does nothing other than bring  shame to the great name of Aston Villa and makes us fans look small time idiots.

[Villanation]

I don't get this wait until the season is over bit, the season is over, the only catastrophe that befall the club now is that we go on a breathtaking losing streak and the teams below us go on an even more breathtaking winning streak, neither of which is going to happen.

We will survive and we will get the required points even if its marginally, surely this protest at the game tomorrow is about McLiesh, that's it, its about fans that pay good money to support the club that have a vested interest in the club saying that's enough and we don't want to go through another season of this crap, its not about McLiesh coming from Blues or anywhere else, its about boring crap football, probably worst in the Premiership, club is fast becoming a joke to fans of other clubs, we will lose players.

I fully intend to go to this and in my way I will participate in any protest that I consider measured and constructive in achieving a goal hopefully, if I get there and find its a bunch of yobs just venting there anger because the Pasties have gone up in price I have no interest whatsoever, and if this brings about change for the good it will be down to fans like this that all of us internet supporting wizards that will enjoy (hopefully) good football next season, certainly won't be anything else.

So as for people saying won't achieve anything and load of crap, I would rather try than sit on my dairy air and then coming on the various boards after we have put in another shite display tomorrow complaining like hell what a crap team and how McLiesh has got it wrong yet again which actually achieves absolutely nothing in terms of the club, in terms of getting it of your chest is about the only merit it has.

If people want to go and protest good for them, if they do it in a positive organized but firm manner, double good for them, equally if someone wants to protest there tomorrow holding high is message board saying "McLiesh should be given a chance" than bloody well done him" that's his opinion, its not mine and I can't look at Villa yet again for another season putting out all this crap again.

Having said all that, as I'm coming a very long way i up to phuk Villa put in a scintillating display and beat the pants of Chelsea. 

[little Fish]

As much as I don't like McLeish and would be happy to see the back of him I will never join such an action that does nothing other than bring  shame to the great name of Aston Villa and makes us fans look small time idiots.

And us hiring McLeish and the dwindling attendances don't?

We've become a laughing stock, so much so opposition fans seem to take p[ity on us. Showing the club how you really, is surely better than just turning up in silence and watching over a shower of sh** every week. The atmosphere now at VP is non-existent,and we're only going one way, down.

[Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle]

As much as I don't like McLeish and would be happy to see the back of him I will never join such an action that does nothing other than bring  shame to the great name of Aston Villa and makes us fans look small time idiots.

And us hiring McLeish and the dwindling attendances don't?

We've become a laughing stock, so much so opposition fans seem to take p[ity on us. Showing the club how you really, is surely better than just turning up in silence and watching over a shower of sh** every week. The atmosphere now at VP is non-existent,and we're only going one way, down.

A good positive first post. That's what I like.

[KevinGage]

To mark the Easter festivities, how about pelting McLeish with creme eggs? 
Shouldn't be difficult to smuggle into the Trinity.

Or if RL is in town, something tasteful like burning the US flag and making cutthroat gestures to the posh seats.

[pauliewalnuts]

Or if RL is in town, something tasteful like burning the US flag and making cutthroat gestures to the posh seats.

I bet the won't be.

He's probably got something more important to do with his time - a Wire box set to watch or something.

[little Fish]

As much as I don't like McLeish and would be happy to see the back of him I will never join such an action that does nothing other than bring  shame to the great name of Aston Villa and makes us fans look small time idiots.

And us hiring McLeish and the dwindling attendances don't?

We've become a laughing stock, so much so opposition fans seem to take p[ity on us. Showing the club how you really, is surely better than just turning up in silence and watching over a shower of sh** every week. The atmosphere now at VP is non-existent,and we're only going one way, down.

A good positive first post. That's what I like.

Haha I know, I've been registered for ages, but just never posted, usually post on VT. I believe I'm right though.

[KevinGage]

Well he did have £18 million Greg, not a million miles off that. 

True, it would be ambitious in the extreme to think we could plug all the gaps with that.  Both the defensive shortcomings that were so evident last year and replacing Young and Downing (if he didn't feel the creative players he already had on the books were up to the job).

I'd have been content enough if we'd just made progress correcting one of those problem areas this season.  But we haven't.   We're still suspect at the back, we don't create many chances and he's somehow managed to turn a £24 million pound England international  into Cameron Jerome.