Quote from: curiousorange on August 05, 2012, 08:29:42 PMTechnically, we were pretty good yesterday. Physically, we faded second half. As long as we can play like the first half and keep it going for the whole of the second, I think we can be optimistic.Was that the first time in this pre-season that our players have played the whole game? I imagine the first half is a better gauge of where we're at. We've got another couple of weeks to get fitness levels up to the point that we can play like that for a whole game.
Technically, we were pretty good yesterday. Physically, we faded second half. As long as we can play like the first half and keep it going for the whole of the second, I think we can be optimistic.
Quote from: villan from luton on August 05, 2012, 11:15:46 PMWe wont get too much for Makoun. Reckon he could have been an asset with Lambert in charge. I still think he's a really good player and hope we can sort his permit out.
We wont get too much for Makoun. Reckon he could have been an asset with Lambert in charge.
Quote from: curiousorange on August 05, 2012, 09:21:51 PMSomebody behind me said 'Welcome to Aston Villa, Charles N'Zogbia' and he was right - it was the best shift he'd yet put in. However, he needs to learn he can't walk the ball into the net. Three or four times he could have smacked it and it would have flown in past Camp. My own opinion is that we can do with a snappy, combative player whose only job is to break up play. If we're going to go for the nice little passes, we need a Plan B for when the passes aren't accurate. One of the reasons for our tiredness was because we spent too long chasing for the ball back, our front players included. Give somebody the job of regaining it in midfield or watch as the shortcomings of the defence are exposed as they constantly were under McLeish.Again, agree on both points Curious. I thought N'Zogbia showed glimpses of real quality yesterday, yet there was still the moments of frustration. I thought we were on for a very early goal of the season candidate when he went on that run in the first half, but again instead of shooting he took too many touches. Let's hope he can build on that performance yesterday, as he does possess undoubted quality.I also agree that we are missing that ball winner in midfield. Personally, I think we could do with someone just sitting in front of the defence who as you say, can win the ball back when we lose it. I think the saga with Makoun has gone too far now, so maybe we could sell him and use the proceeds to bring in that type of player.
Somebody behind me said 'Welcome to Aston Villa, Charles N'Zogbia' and he was right - it was the best shift he'd yet put in. However, he needs to learn he can't walk the ball into the net. Three or four times he could have smacked it and it would have flown in past Camp. My own opinion is that we can do with a snappy, combative player whose only job is to break up play. If we're going to go for the nice little passes, we need a Plan B for when the passes aren't accurate. One of the reasons for our tiredness was because we spent too long chasing for the ball back, our front players included. Give somebody the job of regaining it in midfield or watch as the shortcomings of the defence are exposed as they constantly were under McLeish.
Quote from: tomd2103 on August 05, 2012, 11:11:13 PMQuote from: curiousorange on August 05, 2012, 09:21:51 PMSomebody behind me said 'Welcome to Aston Villa, Charles N'Zogbia' and he was right - it was the best shift he'd yet put in. However, he needs to learn he can't walk the ball into the net. Three or four times he could have smacked it and it would have flown in past Camp. My own opinion is that we can do with a snappy, combative player whose only job is to break up play. If we're going to go for the nice little passes, we need a Plan B for when the passes aren't accurate. One of the reasons for our tiredness was because we spent too long chasing for the ball back, our front players included. Give somebody the job of regaining it in midfield or watch as the shortcomings of the defence are exposed as they constantly were under McLeish.Again, agree on both points Curious. I thought N'Zogbia showed glimpses of real quality yesterday, yet there was still the moments of frustration. I thought we were on for a very early goal of the season candidate when he went on that run in the first half, but again instead of shooting he took too many touches. Let's hope he can build on that performance yesterday, as he does possess undoubted quality.I also agree that we are missing that ball winner in midfield. Personally, I think we could do with someone just sitting in front of the defence who as you say, can win the ball back when we lose it. I think the saga with Makoun has gone too far now, so maybe we could sell him and use the proceeds to bring in that type of player.Completely agree from what I saw, on both counts.Don't agree that CNZ was useless as some said. I thought he looked a real threat and played people in more intelligently than at times. Still needs to improve quite a bit there. If he can, he may be very well suited to they striker role
Quote from: tomd2103 on August 05, 2012, 11:11:13 PMQuote from: curiousorange on August 05, 2012, 09:21:51 PMSomebody behind me said 'Welcome to Aston Villa, Charles N'Zogbia' and he was right - it was the best shift he'd yet put in. However, he needs to learn he can't walk the ball into the net. Three or four times he could have smacked it and it would have flown in past Camp. My own opinion is that we can do with a snappy, combative player whose only job is to break up play. If we're going to go for the nice little passes, we need a Plan B for when the passes aren't accurate. One of the reasons for our tiredness was because we spent too long chasing for the ball back, our front players included. Give somebody the job of regaining it in midfield or watch as the shortcomings of the defence are exposed as they constantly were under McLeish.Again, agree on both points Curious. I thought N'Zogbia showed glimpses of real quality yesterday, yet there was still the moments of frustration. I thought we were on for a very early goal of the season candidate when he went on that run in the first half, but again instead of shooting he took too many touches. Let's hope he can build on that performance yesterday, as he does possess undoubted quality.I also agree that we are missing that ball winner in midfield. Personally, I think we could do with someone just sitting in front of the defence who as you say, can win the ball back when we lose it. I think the saga with Makoun has gone too far now, so maybe we could sell him and use the proceeds to bring in that type of player.I'm yet to be convinced that Charles really has got the attitude - if he can show it, fantastic; he'll be an asset.Re the sitting MF player - isn't that the role that Herd should be playing? I would like to see him and KEA playing alongside BB, with Holman and Ireland in front and one up top. That way, I think we can have the flair to attack buit the solidity to defend effectively.
With the amount of the ball fullbacks get these days I wonder of Banna