Brett Holman

[Percy McCarthy]

Risso's suffering from the longest period ever about The Villa at the moment - best thing to do is just leave 'em to it. I suppose we'll just have to wait and see who has the better Villa career.

[Olneythelonely]

I'm a firm believer in hard work gaining its reward. I think he'll prove to be a good signing.

Emile Heskey always put a shift in.

Apples and Oranges.

I'm not comparing them as players, just pointing out that working hard isn't enough.

Yeah but one is a hard working striker, who never scores. The other is a hard working midfielder who's job it is to harrass and win back possession. He can work on his ability with the ball at his feet, but dismissing him after 3 games is a bit harsh.

[Risso]

Risso's suffering from the longest period ever about The Villa at the moment - best thing to do is just leave 'em to it. I suppose we'll just have to wait and see who has the better Villa career.

Bollocks Percy, go and read the match threads for the lot of matches, he was pretty well universally rated as playing poorly in all of them.

[PaulWinch again]

As I said earlier, dismissing Holman after three games is madness. It took Modric a season to get used to the Premier League, now I'm not saying that that Holman is in that class but it shows that it can take time.

[Percy McCarthy]

Just seems to me you're in 'everything's shit' mode at the minute Riss and it's pervading your views on most things.

It's fair enough like, you're entitled to your opinion and to express it and all that. I'm not going to fall out with you or think any the less of you about it, you just seem stuck in a mood, you big girl.

Oh and bollocks to you an' all.

*wink*

[Olneythelonely]

And I don't think he was universally slagged off, there were quite a few saying he was cack but also many were giving him MOTM (against Newcastle). Nearly everyone I've spoken to outside of here seems to rate him. I'm not sure why that is but it is a bit strange.

[john e]

Risso's suffering from the longest period ever about The Villa at the moment - best thing to do is just leave 'em to it. I suppose we'll just have to wait and see who has the better Villa career.

Bollocks Percy, go and read the match threads for the lot of matches, he was pretty well universally rated as playing poorly in all of them.

i use the match threads and enjoy them especially last season (didnt enjot them for obvious reasons)

and i know i'm opening up old wounds here, but in true post match thread tradition i would only rate the posters views on players having a good or bad game on there as 3/10
a player only has to give the ball away once or make a bad cross and a poster will say so and so's having a nightmare, then everyone gets it in there head and suddenly the said player is having a shit time of it.

i didnt go to Newcastle and on the match thread Hollman was crap, yet in some of the papers he was MOTM, highlighted out on MOTD as one of the better performers on the day

i went to the West Ham game and when i got back and read the match thread i was honestly taken back and shocked at reading about the game i had just seen, which was in my view nothing like the same, but i suppose thats 'just in my view' which is always subjective.

but anyways, i will continue to use the match thread where neccasary, but will not take the views very seriously anymore as i really believe they are often way way of the mark, and are often dependent on the score line, and i would also include my own views also in the same context.

[peter w]

I'm a firm believer in hard work gaining its reward. I think he'll prove to be a good signing.

Emile Heskey always put a shift in.

Apples and Oranges.

I'm not comparing them as players, just pointing out that working hard isn't enough.

Countless International and club managers disagree with you, though.

[Mortimer's Bear]

Off the ball he's been a bit of a revelation in my opinion (Newcastle goal aside), it's on the ball he needs to improve, and I'm confident he will.

[Risso]

Just seems to me you're in 'everything's shit' mode at the minute Riss and it's pervading your views on most things.

It's fair enough like, you're entitled to your opinion and to express it and all that. I'm not going to fall out with you or think any the less of you about it, you just seem stuck in a mood, you big girl.

Oh and bollocks to you an' all.

*wink*

You missed the thread I started about Guzan then?  And my comments in the Newcastle match and post-match threads?

[Risso]

I'm a firm believer in hard work gaining its reward. I think he'll prove to be a good signing.

Emile Heskey always put a shift in.

Apples and Oranges.

I'm not comparing them as players, just pointing out that working hard isn't enough.

Countless International and club managers disagree with you, though.

Not many managers this summer though.

[peter w]

Okay

I'm a firm believer in hard work gaining its reward. I think he'll prove to be a good signing.

Emile Heskey always put a shift in.

Apples and Oranges.

I'm not comparing them as players, just pointing out that working hard isn't enough.

Countless International and club managers disagree with you, though.

Not many managers this summer though.

No, you're right. After 60+ England caps and 500 or so top flight games over almost 20 seasons he's now officially shit because he's not with anyone. The world has finally seen through him.

[Risso]

Oh please.  Emile Heskey?  Bloody dismal player.

[peter w]

Not saying he's Messi but you can't use a justification for your opinion that he's shite being that he's clubless after 18 years and 62 caps playing at the highest level. You can fool some of the people some of the time, and Emile Heskey can fool every manager he's played under all of the time, apparently.

[Risso]

Not saying he's Messi but you can't use a justification for your opinion that he's shite being that he's clubless after 18 years and 62 caps playing at the highest level. You can fool some of the people some of the time, and Emile Heskey can fool every manager he's played under all of the time, apparently.

By that justification there are no bad players anywhere, including Alan Hutton.