Summer Transfer Thread: Speculation, Lies, Absolute Cr*p and Bosman Rumours

[spangley1812]

Carroll not going to West Ham. I hope we're doing something behind the scenes.

We may well be but i cant see carroll wanting to come to villa either in all honesty, the noises from carrolls camp suggest he wouldnt be interested.

Which club is likely to offer him a more appealing option, though?

He really wants to go back to Newcastle I reckon but if he thinks about it and "buys" into Lamberts ethos then he could be a real hero and the spearhead we need 

[PaulMcGrathsNo5Shirt]

I like Carroll, but from what I've seen of the tactics we deploy at Villa now we play more of a narrow diamond shape midfield with our width coming from the advancing full backs. I'm not convinced Carroll would get enough crosses to to be a success at Villa with our new diamond midfield unless he played as the only striker. I can't see Lambert leaving out Bent either.

[pauliewalnuts]

Carroll not going to West Ham. I hope we're doing something behind the scenes.

We may well be but i cant see carroll wanting to come to villa either in all honesty, the noises from carrolls camp suggest he wouldnt be interested.

Which club is likely to offer him a more appealing option, though?

He really wants to go back to Newcastle I reckon but if he thinks about it and "buys" into Lamberts ethos then he could be a real hero and the spearhead we need 

I honestly don't think Newcastle need him back. Cisse and Ba up front are decent options. In fact, didn't they play towards the end of the season with Ba out wide and just Cisse up front?

[N'ZMAV]

I think we should be going for a left back, centre back, centre midfield, winger and a striker. Yes, I am greedy.

[spangley1812]

Carroll not going to West Ham. I hope we're doing something behind the scenes.

We may well be but i cant see carroll wanting to come to villa either in all honesty, the noises from carrolls camp suggest he wouldnt be interested.

Which club is likely to offer him a more appealing option, though?

He really wants to go back to Newcastle I reckon but if he thinks about it and "buys" into Lamberts ethos then he could be a real hero and the spearhead we need 

I honestly don't think Newcastle need him back. Cisse and Ba up front are decent options. In fact, didn't they play towards the end of the season with Ba out wide and just Cisse up front?

They dont need him but I reckon thats where he wants to go

Ba had a release clause of £7m but thats expired now and they will lose Ba, Cisse in Jan again to the African Cup of Nations

Newcastle would only go for a loan deal which I cant see Liverpool going for unless there is a permanent deal @ the end of it 

[Can Gana Be Bettered!?!?]

Fuck me, is it that bad that people want Carroll? He was shit last season.

[DrGonzo]

I think we should be going for a left back, centre back, centre midfield, winger and a striker. Yes, I am greedy.

That would be lovely, I fear we might not have the finances for all of the above.  Lets see what santa gets you for Xmas...

[Toronto Villa]

If Carroll wants to go to Newcastle despite knowing that they don't really need him, don't want to pay for him, and given what they already have up front then he has no ambition or desire. He wants to be in an environment where he is most comfortable and loved. I get that. But life very rarely presents you with perfect scenarios and he's likely going to have to accept a place that will help reignite his once very promising career. I don't know if that is us, but there's something good going on at Villa Park and if he can become focused he'd be a great addition.

[DrGonzo]

Just spotted this on f365:

"The Daily Mail reports Villas-Boas will tell a number of players to do one, as he tries to make room for a striker.

The paper reports: 'David Bentley, Jermaine Jenas, Sebastien Bassong, William Gallas and Kyle Naughton are all expected to be told they can leave this summer, while a number of the club's youngsters will be made available for loan.' "

Anyone on that list that tickles your fancy?

[spangley1812]

Fuck me, is it that bad that people want Carroll? He was shit last season.

But before he joined Liverpool he was almost unplayable but as someone else has said I cant see him fitting into the passing, style that Lambert wants as there was a definate lack of width @ the Forest game

[Mazrim]

If Carroll wants to go to Newcastle despite knowing that they don't really need him, don't want to pay for him, and given what they already have up front then he has no ambition or desire. He wants to be in an environment where he is most comfortable and loved. I get that. But life very rarely presents you with perfect scenarios and he's likely going to have to accept a place that will help reignite his once very promising career. I don't know if that is us, but there's something good going on at Villa Park and if he can become focused he'd be a great addition.

Spot on.

[Can Gana Be Bettered!?!?]

Fuck me, is it that bad that people want Carroll? He was shit last season.

But before he joined Liverpool he was almost unplayable but as someone else has said I cant see him fitting into the passing, style that Lambert wants as there was a definate lack of width @ the Forest game

Really? I think you'll find he had one half-decent season and before that only scored a modest amount in a team that cruised the league in the Championship.

Do we want Liverpools cast-offs? No, we're better than that.

[spangley1812]

Just spotted this on f365:

"The Daily Mail reports Villas-Boas will tell a number of players to do one, as he tries to make room for a striker.

The paper reports: 'David Bentley, Jermaine Jenas, Sebastien Bassong, William Gallas and Kyle Naughton are all expected to be told they can leave this summer, while a number of the club's youngsters will be made available for loan.' "

Anyone on that list that tickles your fancy?

Is Naughton left footed.......... 

[JJ-AV]

Naughton is right footed naturally but can play left back.

Bassong would be worth considering as well, but we have two promising left footed centre halves and he doesn't like playing LB.

I really think we should only sign a striker on loan (Carroll, Sturridge, Lukaku) or a short term deal (Klasnic, Owen). We would end up spending big on someone not particularly out of the ordinary - save the funds for a forward for when we're a position of strength like Newcastle did last year with Cisse.

[Chris Smith]

If Carroll wants to go to Newcastle despite knowing that they don't really need him, don't want to pay for him, and given what they already have up front then he has no ambition or desire. He wants to be in an environment where he is most comfortable and loved. I get that. But life very rarely presents you with perfect scenarios and he's likely going to have to accept a place that will help reignite his once very promising career. I don't know if that is us, but there's something good going on at Villa Park and if he can become focused he'd be a great addition.

I think you're getting ahead of yourself a little, Toronto. There's an upturn in optimism around the club at present, but we've not kicked a ball in anger yet so the "something good going on" comment is a little premature, in my opinion. It's perfectly understandable that he'd look on a move to Villa at present as a huge backwards step.

From a personal point of view I'm not too fused as I don't particularly rate him, if you've got him in your side it almost forces you to play one particular way as he doesn't have many strings to his bow.