Summer Transfer Thread: Speculation, Lies, Absolute Cr*p and Bosman Rumours

[Risso]

I see Bannan as basically a far more limited version of Delph.

They're completely different players.  Delph is a headless chicken who isn't especially good at any one area of the game.  Bannan is an exceptionally gifted passer of the ball, who perhaps doesn't have the physical presence and also the application to be a really great player.

[N'ZMAV]

I can see potential in both of them, for different reasons. I doubt either will go right to the top.

[Mazrim]

I see Bannan as basically a far more limited version of Delph.

They're completely different players.  Delph is a headless chicken who isn't especially good at any one area of the game.  Bannan is an exceptionally gifted passer of the ball, who perhaps doesn't have the physical presence and also the application to be a really great player.

I disagree. No, they're not the same player but they share a lot of similarities. They're both left footed, small players with excellent passing range, of a similar age and arguably play the same position in a similar formation. But Delph has added strengths in that he's far more tenacious, faster and physically stronger. He's a far more viable central midfielder.
I dont know where this headless chicken thing is coming from. I dont see it. He's young and makes mistake, yes, and in my opinion for all the reasons I listed before: As soon as he settles in or gets a chance to have a run in the team, he's suffered terrible injuries or is played out of position under a new manager. Hardly ideal.

But to be clear, I dont want to rely on Bannan this season because I think he's too limited and I dont want to rely on Delph because his injury record is horrendous. We need to hope for the best with those two but plan accordingly elsewhere. But if I had to choose one it would be Delph without question because he offers more.

[Mister E]

I see Bannan as basically a far more limited version of Delph.

I could quite see Delph as an attacking LB (or wingback if we were to play three at the back).
With a strong enough midfield, Bannan could adopt the Luca Modric role that Spurrrrs have benefited form, but it needs to be in a very accomplished MF.

[maidstonevillain]

I see Bannan as basically a far more limited version of Delph.

I could quite see Delph as an attacking LB (or wingback if we were to play three at the back).
With a strong enough midfield, Bannan could adopt the Luca Modric role that Spurrrrs have benefited form, but it needs to be in a very accomplished MF.

He would never last a game. He would jump in and get sent off and/or injure himself.

[LeeB]

I see Bannan as basically a far more limited version of Delph.

I think Bannan has greater technical ability, but I fear he hasn't quite got the the cognitive skills to make it count.

[oldtimernow]

I see Bannan as basically a far more limited version of Delph.

I could quite see Delph as an attacking LB (or wingback if we were to play three at the back).
With a strong enough midfield, Bannan could adopt the Luca Modric role that Spurrrrs have benefited form, but it needs to be in a very accomplished MF.


I think that the discipline required for the full back position could actually help Delph with regard to this aspect of his game.If I  remember when he played there he was less likely to be involved in diving in as he would in midfield which inevitably ended up with a caution.

He would never last a game. He would jump in and get sent off and/or injure himself.

[supertom]

I see Bannan as basically a far more limited version of Delph.

I think Bannan has greater technical ability, but I fear he hasn't quite got the the cognitive skills to make it count.

That's my view. In a dream world perhaps he could become our Pirlo, but I very much doubt it.

[Mazrim]

I put his occasional rash challenges down to youth and overenthusiasm. Its something that would naturally improve with age but did need looking at and I believe was addressed.

[N'ZMAV]

Delph needs a season on loan somewhere where he can stay fit and play nearly every game. He won't do that at Villa.

[JJ-AV]

The transfer market is difficult for us because we're not in the market to be signing 28+ year olds on big contracts any longer.

However, we clearly have a few talented youngsters that we'd like to see develop a little further. The problem is they need helping along by experienced pros. Over the last few years we've lost Friedel, Bouma, Laursen, Petrov, Milner, Young and Barry who are all captain candidates.

Who are we left with? Collins, Dunne, Hutton and Warnock who can't even perform themselves. N'Zogbia, Ireland and Bent who are lazy and self-centred and Gabby who is a sulker.

There's no mentality here, there's leadership on the playing side and there's no core of players that will command the respect of the others. It's going to be really difficult to get the balance right, as we're obviously after a certain personality. It's why I'd have signed Danny Murphy and I wouldn't be against signing Grant Holt.

[Mazrim]

Danny Murphy has been a good player but we should move past that now. If we're going to get players in their mid 30s for a season they should be exceptional players like Seedorf (who my brother would like us to sign), something of a coup, an inspiration or just not bother.

[Exeter 77]

Seedorf has signed for a side in Brazil but I can't remember which one.

Edit:  Botofogo - but it isn't as signed and sealed as I'd read it was.

[Mazrim]

It was just an example anyway. The type of profile of the player was my point I suppose.
Yes it's worth getting a player at that stage of his career if he was really still high enough profile and good enough to compensate for his... ageing. Take Pirlo for example.

I don't think Murphy is what we need.

[Phil from the upper holte]

Hasn't Murphy signed for someone now?