Summer Transfer Thread: Speculation, Lies, Absolute Cr*p and Bosman Rumours

[olaftab]

I detected a little sign in the way  Messi celebrated his second goal that he is leaving Barca in the summer on his way to us.

[pedro25]

While we are currently not big spenders between 5 and 2 years ago, under M'ON we were the second highest spenders in British football behind Man City and it was only 14 months ago we spent £24 mill on the England no. 9.  So yes we are currently in the same spending bracket as Fulham etc., but surely we should still be at an advantage over these teams given our recent spending and that a large chunk of our current squad was purchased during a period when we were spending sums the smaller premier league clubs could only dream of.  The problem is of course these players we spent so heavily on just aren't very good, Collins, Cuellar, Dunne, Ireland, Warnock etc., and more recently we have spent big on Hutton, N'Zogbia and Makoun and likewise they have offered very little.

You conveniently forget the high spend was on players like Ash, Downing and Milner, who have now all left us.

Those 3 players went for about £61 mill combined, that money has nearly all been reinvested in the team (Around £54.5m, Bent £24mill, Ireland £8m, Makoun £6m, N'Zogbia £9.5m, Given £3.5, Hutton £3.5m) the spare £6.5 mill will have gone on compensation for M'ON, Houllier and Blues.

Hence as I said the last 2 years we have had a zero net spend like 99% of other clubs, but the previous 3 we spent more than anyone bar City.  We certainly haven't made much money through transfers recently though, it seems to me that 90+% is being reinvested straight back into the team.

[Concrete John]

While we are currently not big spenders between 5 and 2 years ago, under M'ON we were the second highest spenders in British football behind Man City and it was only 14 months ago we spent £24 mill on the England no. 9.  So yes we are currently in the same spending bracket as Fulham etc., but surely we should still be at an advantage over these teams given our recent spending and that a large chunk of our current squad was purchased during a period when we were spending sums the smaller premier league clubs could only dream of.  The problem is of course these players we spent so heavily on just aren't very good, Collins, Cuellar, Dunne, Ireland, Warnock etc., and more recently we have spent big on Hutton, N'Zogbia and Makoun and likewise they have offered very little.

You conveniently forget the high spend was on players like Ash, Downing and Milner, who have now all left us.

Those 3 players went for about £61 mill combined, that money has nearly all been reinvested in the team (Around £54.5m, Bent £24mill, Ireland £8m, Makoun £6m, N'Zogbia £9.5m, Given £3.5, Hutton £3.5m) the spare £6.5 mill will have gone on compensation for M'ON, Houllier and Blues.

Hence as I said the last 2 years we have had a zero net spend like 99% of other clubs, but the previous 3 we spent more than anyone bar City.  We certainly haven't made much money through transfers recently though, it seems to me that 90+% is being reinvested straight back into the team.

You're figures are a little off as at £16m I think you're including Milner at £25m, which would then include Ireland, who you count again.  And we've paid nowhere near the full £24m for Bent yet.  Also, The money spent in those years was also on players like NRC, who went for nothing, and smaller incoming fees for the likes of Shorey and Davies need to be added to your totals.

Basically, if you add up the fees paid for our present squad we're nowhere near the level we were in that period.

[Irreverent ad]

http://sport.stv.tv/football/scottish-premier/hearts/302659-marian-kello-close-to-deal-with-aston-villa/

Hearts goalkeeper Marian Kello is close to signing a pre-contract with Aston Villa, STV understands.

The Slovakian is currently trying to negotiate his release from Tynecastle in order to begin training with the English Premier League club at the earliest opportunity.

As he would be moving outside of the transfer window, he would not be able to play for Alex McLeish’s side until the start of next season.

Everton are also interested, as well as Championship clubs Bristol City and Nottingham Forest, but Villa appears to be the most likely destination for the player.

Kello was frozen out of first team action at Hearts in early February, having refused a deadline day transfer to Austria Vienna.

Having been the established first choice at the club prior to the incident, the 29-year-old has continued to train with the team but has not been involved in Paulo Sergio’s selections.

Kello spoke out over his situation in February, saying he had been told he had no future at the club and would be free to leave upon the expiration of his contract this summer.

“The club has signed two young keepers, I have been told,” Kello said. “I don’t feature in the future of the club and I haven’t been offered a new contract.

“I want to play for Hearts but they say they don’t want me for next season because of the money problems and they want to work with youngsters.

“For me it looks like I don’t want to be here at the club but if I have a chance to play, I will play.

“I will give 100% because the club game me the chance to be here, to improve and to be in the national team.”

[pedro25]

While we are currently not big spenders between 5 and 2 years ago, under M'ON we were the second highest spenders in British football behind Man City and it was only 14 months ago we spent £24 mill on the England no. 9.  So yes we are currently in the same spending bracket as Fulham etc., but surely we should still be at an advantage over these teams given our recent spending and that a large chunk of our current squad was purchased during a period when we were spending sums the smaller premier league clubs could only dream of.  The problem is of course these players we spent so heavily on just aren't very good, Collins, Cuellar, Dunne, Ireland, Warnock etc., and more recently we have spent big on Hutton, N'Zogbia and Makoun and likewise they have offered very little.

You conveniently forget the high spend was on players like Ash, Downing and Milner, who have now all left us.

Those 3 players went for about £61 mill combined, that money has nearly all been reinvested in the team (Around £54.5m, Bent £24mill, Ireland £8m, Makoun £6m, N'Zogbia £9.5m, Given £3.5, Hutton £3.5m) the spare £6.5 mill will have gone on compensation for M'ON, Houllier and Blues.

Hence as I said the last 2 years we have had a zero net spend like 99% of other clubs, but the previous 3 we spent more than anyone bar City.  We certainly haven't made much money through transfers recently though, it seems to me that 90+% is being reinvested straight back into the team.

You're figures are a little off as at £16m I think you're including Milner at £25m, which would then include Ireland, who you count again.  And we've paid nowhere near the full £24m for Bent yet.  Also, The money spent in those years was also on players like NRC, who went for nothing, and smaller incoming fees for the likes of Shorey and Davies need to be added to your totals.

Basically, if you add up the fees paid for our present squad we're nowhere near the level we were in that period.

You are correct, Ireland is included on both sides, which is the same as not including him at all, i.e. does not affect the figures one way or another.  I've no idea how much of the £6m add ons we have paid for Bent over the last 15 months, half maybe, who knows, but we have agreed to pay them nevertheless.

We can't be that hard up if we have had the luxury of loaning out guys like Makoun and Delph this season, who cost £6m and £8m respectively.  Our squad must be amongst the top 8 for most expensively assembled, yet we are punching well below our weight amongst and below teams whose squads have been assembled for a fraction of the price.  Yes we dont have Young (£9.65m), Milner (£12m) and Downing (£12m), but we do have Bent (£18+m), Ireland (£8m), N'Zogbia (£9.5) and still have the likes of Petrov (£7.5m), Cuellar (£7.8m), Dunne (£5m), Collins (£6m), Warnock (£8m) etc.

Other than perhaps M'ON's last season when Barry left and we splurged money on Downing, Delph and an entire new back 4, when we all knew we had spent the budget for at least 1 or 2 future transfer windows also, I don't think we have had a more expensively assembled squad than what we have now.  Although after we signed Davies and Cuellar that season must have been fairly comparable also.

[Dave]

Hearts goalkeeper Marian Kello is close to signing a pre-contract with Aston Villa, STV understands.

If true then cheerio Brad.

[Rip Van We Go Again]

First Brett Holman, now Marian Kello.

If that doesn't get the ticket office phones ringing off the hook, nothing will.

[The Left Side]

First Brett Holman, now Marian Kello.

If that doesn't get the ticket office phones ringing off the hook, nothing will.

Any Villans north of the border have any inside knowledge on him, is he a good understudy or will he be next in line to replace Shay?

[Louzie0]

He's not happy...

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/football/spl/2012/02/08/frozen-out-hearts-star-marian-kello-i-m-not-interested-in-celtic-switch-because-i-would-be-second-choice-keeper-86908-23740123/

[hartman_1982]

He looks like a more than adequate number 2.

[The Left Side]

I would love to see Siegrist have a chance at no.2 spot

[Tom wintle]

this goalie was on 2000 a week now guzan on 20000 18000 of the wage bill  any idea what heskys on a week 

[Monty]

I would love to see Siegrist have a chance at no.2 spot

Me too. But our manager values 'experience' (rather like our board, immaterial of whether or not that is experience of being good or rubbish), so the youngsters get shunned if he can help it.

[Toronto Villa]

First Brett Holman, now Marian Kello.

If that doesn't get the ticket office phones ringing off the hook, nothing will.

better than waiting until August 31st. Then again we could let them go to say, Everton, and wonder why we never sign off the radar players for nominal fees or on a free, and instead spend £10 million on utter gash that sit on the bench for 2 years picking up £50k a week.

[JJ-AV]

Nice to see we've got it sorted quick. One headache for the Summer gone. I imagine signing a second choice 'keeper is always a ballache - especially when you're trying to cut the wage bill.