Takeover Rumour

[Billy Walker]

Hmmm. Very interesting. So some unknown super rich person or people are going to buy a football club that has just posted record losses, that has an owner who if he were to sell would at least want his outlay back. And into the bargain they are going to spend billions redeveloping whole swathes of North West Birmingham.

Sorry I have to go now my transport back to reality has just arrived.

Now, I have absolutely no idea how these takeovers work nor the rationale behind them but I'm going to quote from a piece I stuck up here earlier on (P.13 of this thread):


Here are some additional insights into the QIA’s recent strategic investments:

“In 2010 the QIA will also focus on business acquisition.  It will seek to acquire businesses with good management and good products, but which have cash flow problems.  “We are not interested in distressed assets or distressed debt.  We are interested in distressed sellers”, Al-Abdulla said.

See Harrods, Paris Saint-Germaine Football club, Banco Santander Brazil, and the Agricultural Bank of China for details on this approach.


Would Villa fall into any of these categories: Are we a distressed asset, do we have distressed debt or do we have a distressed owner/seller? 

[Mazrim]

I'm not saying with any certainty that Villa will be taken over or that any regeneration of any part of the city is neccessary as part of that.
This is a largely theoretical debate and it goes where it will. It just so happens we were applying a precedent (Man City) to our own circumstances.

[Billy Walker]

Yep, looking at at it all theoretically I'm just trying to see if there are any patterns in previous QIA investments that could be applied to a potential Villa/Aston area investment.

Whether this rumour has any credence or not I reckon the Villa/regeneration idea ticks a lot of the boxes found in previous QIA investments.

[Percy McCarthy]

On reflection I realise I was delude even discussing it. I'm now with the piss-takers as there's a lot more credence to their 'nothing will change - ever!' mind-set.

[Billy Walker]

On reflection I realise I was delude even discussing it. I'm now with the piss-takers as there's a lot more credence to their 'nothing will change - ever!' mind-set.

Keep the faith - it's good to dream Percy and this is great escapism from the present situation.  Things will change, I'm certain of that.  (Whether I'll be alive when it happens, though, is another question. *sob*.)

[Dave Cooper please]

Snow Hill station isn't changing, though. It's an office development next door that is being built. The only difference will be the Metro, but that's just an extension through the city centre, which will make it easier for the yams to go shopping.

Oi, weem gerrin our own Tesco an' Matalan, we dow need yower shaps.

[DB]

Snow Hill station isn't changing, though. It's an office development next door that is being built. The only difference will be the Metro, but that's just an extension through the city centre, which will make it easier for the yams to go shopping.

Oi, weem gerrin our own Tesco an' Matalan, we dow need yower shaps.

If only something was built to stop the Brummies and their high pitched nasal whinging, coming over to Merry Hill every Christmas.....the gloves are off! ;-)

[hawkeye]

Very few football clubs make commercial sense. Villa does have some things going for it from a marketing /invesrment perspective. Huge catchment area, The Biggest Club in the Midlands, location plenty of development opportunitys with the land available, Birmingham is under Hoteled. But the club is losing money and has a negative image right now. Birmingham does not set the pulses running and has done very little to improve its standing as a major city.

[Neil Hawkes]

Yep, looking at at it all theoretically I'm just trying to see if there are any patterns in previous QIA investments that could be applied to a potential Villa/Aston area investment.

Whether this rumour has any credence or not I reckon the Villa/regeneration idea ticks a lot of the boxes found in previous QIA investments.

From living in Qatar for quite a few years, one thing the Qataris are used to and extremely competent at, is building huge complexes on areas of land that previously was just desert (and deserted); once constructed, all the infrastructure was slowly built around the complex to ensure sustainability.
Whether this principal would apply in a foreign country is debatable, but they sure know how to make it work if they're interested.

[olaftab]

[quoteauthor=pauliewalnutslink=topic=46265.msg1985725#msg1985725 date=1330701059]Snow Hill station isn't changing. It's office dev next door is being built.The difference will be the Metro, but that's just an extension through the city centre, which will make it easier for the yams to go shopping.

Oi, weem gerrin our own Tesco an' Matalan, we dow need yower shaps.

If only something was built to stop the Brummies and their high pitched nasal whinging, coming over to Merry Hill every Christmas.....the gloves are off! ;-). [/quote]
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I will be very happy if a West Bank style wall was built from J9 to Great Bridge to Halesowen along side M5 that kept the undesireables out of our city.

[DB]

[quoteauthor=pauliewalnutslink=topic=46265.msg1985725#msg1985725 date=1330701059]Snow Hill station isn't changing. It's office dev next door is being built.The difference will be the Metro, but that's just an extension through the city centre, which will make it easier for the yams to go shopping.

Oi, weem gerrin our own Tesco an' Matalan, we dow need yower shaps.

If only something was built to stop the Brummies and their high pitched nasal whinging, coming over to Merry Hill every Christmas.....the gloves are off! ;-).

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I will be very happy if a West Bank style wall was built from J9 to Great Bridge to Halesowen along side M5 that kept the undesireables out of our city.
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Do be like that, I'd miss seeing any sovereign rings or fake Burberry.....or young chaps with tracky bottoms tucked into their socks & shoes. Anyway, we'd just go via Bromsgrove.

[Holte L2]

There were a group of very smart of Asian's in the middle tier of the police control room yesterday. They couldnt be the consortium, could they?

[dave.woodhall]

There were a group of very smart of Asian's in the middle tier of the police control room yesterday. They couldnt be the consortium, could they?

I doubt that very much indeed.

[Holte L2]

There were a group of very smart of Asian's in the middle tier of the police control room yesterday. They couldnt be the consortium, could they?

I doubt that very much indeed.

Me and you both. But after a few beers I did start to convince myself!

[Bad English]

From living in Qatar for quite a few years, one thing the Qataris are used to and extremely competent at, is building huge complexes on areas of land that previously was just desert (and deserted); once constructed, all the infrastructure was slowly built around the complex to ensure sustainability.
Whether this principal would apply in a foreign country is debatable, but they sure know how to make it work if they're interested.

If I were in a position of responsibility at the Sandwell Chamber of Commerce / Council,  I'd be sending a plump sheep to the Qataris via Oxen Express.