Takeover Rumour

[Simba]

Again I have to agree with you in that I think that Randy is looking for investment Capital in lieu of  percentage shareholding and not outright sale. I would. Ok,  Dilutes his profit potential but there seems to be little chance of any short term return and lets face it his risk is huge. Particularly given the current problems. He can't keep pumping cash into us.

So obviously a long term (business) plan. But I still don't understand the current decisions, AMC for eg if he wants to maximise the potential benefit to an investor. Relegation , please God no, would be a killer.

Don't get it.  Gotta hope that there is a plan but I can't fathom it.

[Simba]

Blimey

[Simba]

Well if it is Bollocks it is a very carefully crafted press 'release'. Protects everyone. Hmmm.

[PaulWinch again]

Ah there's the problem, 'securing Premier League status' that isn't going to happen.....

[Concrete John]

Ah there's the problem, 'securing Premier League status' that isn't going to happen.....

So you think we ARE going to get relegated?

[PaulWinch again]

Not really, it was only a joke. I do think there is a reasonably strong possibility if we don't pick up soon though.

[Concrete John]

It's from a BOLLOCKS site so I can't say where the Sky Sports reference comes from....

I had a look at the Sky Sports website and can see no reference to this on the Villa page.

[Marlon From Bearwood]

Again I have to agree with you in that I think that Randy is looking for investment Capital in lieu of  percentage shareholding and not outright sale. I would. Ok,  Dilutes his profit potential but there seems to be little chance of any short term return and lets face it his risk is huge. Particularly given the current problems. He can't keep pumping cash into us.

So obviously a long term (business) plan. But I still don't understand the current decisions, AMC for eg if he wants to maximise the potential benefit to an investor. Relegation , please God no, would be a killer.

Don't get it.  Gotta hope that there is a plan but I can't fathom it.

I think you could maybe argue that the appointment of AMC does actually fit in well with Randy's plan to eventually sell up. He's the only manager prepared to work under the current cost cutting measures, ie sell the best players for large amounts, only reinvest a fraction of the money on new signings, massively slash the wage bill, whilst making sure we maintain our PL status.

As long as AMC doesn't go and get us relegated then Randy's plan is working. It's depressing and boring for us now, but may make us that bit more attractive to potential buyers in future.

[pauliewalnuts]

It's from a BOLLOCKS site so I can't say where the Sky Sports reference comes from....


24 Feb 2012 21:58:54

"Aston Villa "subject to takeover bid"
Oil rich Qatar to invest in Premier League club

Aston Villa are to become the latest football club to fall into the hands of the oil rich nation of Qatar.

Sky Sports News understands, The Qatar Investment Authority (QIA) have held preliminary discussions with Aston Villa Chairman Randy Lerner with a view to a potential £150m buyout.

Lerner had previously stated that he would be unwilling to sell the football club, unless personal circumstances dictated, however it seems he has been tempted to sell.

It is not known when the takeover could take place but it it thought the QIA is awaiting for Villa to secure their Premier League status before going public with the deal.

A source who did not wish to be named said. "Randy never wanted to sell Villa, but the Qataris will be able to make Villa successful. He will however, only agree to the sale if assurances over the long term future of the club are given"

If the deal is completed, Aston Villa will join the mega–rich elite league of the Premiership. Currently, Manchester City's owner Sheikh Mansour bin Zayed Al Nahyan has an estimated wealth of over £20bn but it is believed that the cash available to QIA surpasses this amount.

Neither Aston Villa or The Qatar Investment Authority were available to comment last night.
"

That's from Football Rumours, isn't it?

[Mister E]

Financial take-over is not the only strategy for success!

Whilst the talk is inevitably about financial takeovers and ownership changes, have we lost sight of the things that could be done without an enormous injection of new capital?
Excluding the increase in transfer fees to Citeh-esque proportions, what are the things that we should be doing to improve where we’re at? For example,
1.   more football expertise on the Board, to improve decision-making;
2.   a manager that has the experience / credibility / foresight / character / decision-making capability / footballing – tactical awareness / media-management capability;
3.   a Board that has a medium-term perspective on the football / player requirements and makes decisions largely based on these (i.e. rather than pumping money at the manager – MON – and then suddenly (relatively) cutting it off);
4.   ensuring that the scouting system really is fit for purpose;
5.   continuing to develop and enhance the youth academy, and then using its output.

And there are plenty of others. At the moment it seems obvious from the outside that the first 2 are not being addressed.

The reason I ask these questions is that (i) we may not get taken over and may have to continue under the current ownership and financial constraints; and (ii) even if we get a ton of money, without European competition we will initially struggle to attract the best players – our scope for using the £££-influx may be somewhat limited until the club gets the right management and some forward traction.

In summary there are things the club should be doing now that would improve our fortunes substantially. Perhaps it's the fact that little / none of this seems to be in progress which supports the prospect of an imminent takeover.

[Concrete John]

As long as AMC doesn't go and get us relegated then Randy's plan is working. It's depressing and boring for us now, but may make us that bit more attractive to potential buyers in future.

Sorry to pick on your paricular post, but am I the only one that doesn;t get this?

Chelsea were in big financial trouble when Roman came in.  And would stupidly rich oil sheiks care if our wages/turnover ratio wasn't healthy?  A Ratio they'd more than likely immediately inflate anyway?

[Marlon From Bearwood]

As long as AMC doesn't go and get us relegated then Randy's plan is working. It's depressing and boring for us now, but may make us that bit more attractive to potential buyers in future.

Sorry to pick on your paricular post, but am I the only one that doesn;t get this?

Chelsea were in big financial trouble when Roman came in.  And would stupidly rich oil sheiks care if our wages/turnover ratio wasn't healthy?  A Ratio they'd more than likely immediately inflate anyway?

Maybe he's preparing to sell us to someone who's not stupidly rich, ie not the Arabs, which would piss on all our chips. Who really knows? We're all just speculating.

[mr woo]

Yes, sorry no intention to deceive, mislead or excite anyone. The quote is from one of those ridiculous rumours sites i.e. a BOLLOCKS site.

Previous post was brief due to trying to use the net while I should be working....

[pauliewalnuts]

Yes, sorry no intention to deceive, mislead or excite anyone. The quote is from one of those ridiculous rumours sites i.e. a BOLLOCKS site.

Previous post was brief due to trying to use the net while I should be working....

S'alright.

I was hoping in my heart of hearts it'd be a "bollocks, but maybe, just maybe some credibility" site, rather than an utter out and out bollocks one ;-)

[eastie]

Yes, sorry no intention to deceive, mislead or excite anyone. The quote is from one of those ridiculous rumours sites i.e. a BOLLOCKS site.

Previous post was brief due to trying to use the net while I should be working....

S'alright.

I was hoping in my heart of hearts it'd be a "bollocks, but maybe, just maybe some credibility" site, rather than an utter out and out bollocks one ;-)

Dont worry paulie, theres still hope that it may happen-just about our only hope of getting back into the elite of europe.