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Author Topic: Wigan Athletic v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread  (Read 86750 times)

Offline Rudy Can't Fail

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Re: Wigan Athletic v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #75 on: February 25, 2012, 05:12:27 PM »
As dire as dire can be.

Not quite, you're forgeting your clown shoes.

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Re: Wigan Athletic v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #76 on: February 25, 2012, 05:12:47 PM »
Woeful - and freezing.
Sack McLeish my lord the villa fans sang.
I was one of them

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Re: Wigan Athletic v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #77 on: February 25, 2012, 05:13:00 PM »
He lost a lot of people willing to give him a chance last week. Those numbers grew massively today. I'm literally at the edge if the cliff.

Have been trying to hold onto some objective neutrality but slipping away now - I mean - Wigan out possessing us! FFS

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Re: Wigan Athletic v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #78 on: February 25, 2012, 05:13:10 PM »
Despite all the negativity about how we are doomed and are going down, with our result today,we are no nearer the relegation zone.

Just guessing, but I am going to go out on a limb and say this time last year, we were nearer the relegation zone than we are today.

No need to panic, people.

Last year we always lined up to win (except against Liverpool and Man City). Last year we had Ashley Young, Makoun, Luke Young and Downing was having a great season.

This year. Well, where do you start? Keane's cameo is over, Bent is injured, we have an under-par N'Zogbia for Young and Downing and half the squad either aren't happy or aren't good enough. We are terrified of losing when at home and the manager thinks a 0-1 defeat isn't a bad result.

Things are a lot worse this year.

But why aren't the squad happy?  We have some players coming though, the likes of Clark, Bannan, Albrighton, Gardner etc. who may not turn out to be world beaters but surely are going to be good enough to be the backbone of a Top 8 side but I fear that they are being slowly drained off enthusiasm and opportunity.

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Re: Wigan Athletic v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #79 on: February 25, 2012, 05:13:20 PM »
Consider that if we stay up, we will have another season of this shit to look forward to

And that is the most depressing thing of all.

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Re: Wigan Athletic v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #80 on: February 25, 2012, 05:13:35 PM »
Consider that if we stay up, we will have another season of this shit to look forward to

I'm not convinced it would change if we went down.

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Re: Wigan Athletic v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #81 on: February 25, 2012, 05:13:59 PM »
Consider that if we stay up, we will have another season of this shit to look forward to

I'm not convinced it would change if went down.

That's pretty depressing, too.

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Re: Wigan Athletic v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #82 on: February 25, 2012, 05:14:22 PM »
Consider that if we stay up, we will have another season of this shit to look forward to

And that is the most depressing thing of all.

Yes. I'm off to get pissed and lose at snooker.

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Re: Wigan Athletic v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #83 on: February 25, 2012, 05:15:41 PM »
Well, that was pretty mediocre, wasn't it? I was pleasantly surprised when I saw the starting line-up. No-one played particularly poorly but there's just nothing there, is there? What's the problem? McLeish picked a decent side. Are some of the players not as good as we think/hope? Is it the way he's telling them to play? We are crying out for better off-the-ball movement. Never thought I'd say it but we're really going to miss Keane when he goes. Also can't help feeling we still really need a bastard in midfield.

On the stream I was watching, one of the commentators expressed their surprise that Gabby was captain today. He reckoned that either Collins or Hutton should be. Seriously? What kind of research do these guys get paid to do?

It's worrying. Some combination of the players we have, the staff and the general air of decline around the club really spells trouble. You can't see Lerner getting rid of McLeish either so I'm afraid it's only going to get worse. And it's not going to get immediate-relegation worse, it's going to get increasingly dull, grinding out draws, regularly finishing in 14th worse.

Given - 7 - stayed alert and made a couple of decent stops at the end.
Hutton - 7 - I don't rate him and think his crossing is terrible but he was very good today.
Collins - 6 - meh. Didn't do anything wrong but doesn't inspire confidence.
Cuellar - 7.5 - MOTM - looked solid, dependable, and a step up from Dunne. Hope he gets that contract.
Warnock - 6 - a better performance.
Albrighton - 6.5 - I like him. He tries and looks a threat. Tracked back well.
Gardner - 6 - he's going to be a good player and needs the game time so we should stick with him throughout. He battled well.
Bannan - 6.5 - anything good we were going to do was going to come through him or Keane. Good vision and just like Gardner needs a run of games.
Agbonlahor - 6 - didn't show much but I don't think sticking him on the left wing is the answer to anything.
Keane - 7 - always looking for opportunities for one-twos and through balls. The kind of player we need.
Bent - 6 - he really is one-dimensional. Poor in general build-up play and if the ball isn't running for him doesn't look like that great a finisher either. In his defence, he was really feeding off scraps again today. Injury looked worrying.

Heskey - 6 - why, why, why, why? I don't want to be a Heskey-basher but his star clearly waned some time ago. And he's not a right winger. Or an attacking midfielder. Or much of a striker anymore. Waste of a sub. I know N'Zogbia didn't do much when he came on but it would have been preferable.
Ireland - 6 - didn't get into the game.
N'Zogbia - 6 - didn't get into the game.

I think you have been EXCEPTIONALLY generous with those ratings.  3's and 4's t best I reckon.  You really think we were 6.5 out of 10 today?

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Re: Wigan Athletic v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #84 on: February 25, 2012, 05:15:50 PM »
We have a ten million pound winger.

Why are we not using our ten million pound winger?

And fans want him to spend more money in the summer.  ???

Surely even Randy should ask why, but again he's too stupid to realise. Can't believe all the effort he made of bringing in this rubbish manager.

The problem is, unlike O'Neill, if McLeish is given no more money to spend who will just continue to plough on serving up such turgid football, rather than leaving out of principle.  So that approach won't work.

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Re: Wigan Athletic v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #85 on: February 25, 2012, 05:16:44 PM »
Consider that if we stay up, we will have another season of this shit to look forward to

We will go down next season.
It's coming - Oh God...

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Re: Wigan Athletic v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #86 on: February 25, 2012, 05:17:10 PM »
Despite all the negativity about how we are doomed and are going down, with our result today,we are no nearer the relegation zone.

Just guessing, but I am going to go out on a limb and say this time last year, we were nearer the relegation zone than we are today.

No need to panic, people.

Last year we always lined up to win (except against Liverpool and Man City). Last year we had Ashley Young, Makoun, Luke Young and Downing was having a great season.

This year. Well, where do you start? Keane's cameo is over, Bent is injured, we have an under-par N'Zogbia for Young and Downing and half the squad either aren't happy or aren't good enough. We are terrified of losing when at home and the manager thinks a 0-1 defeat isn't a bad result.

Things are a lot worse this year.

But why aren't the squad happy?  We have some players coming though, the likes of Clark, Bannan, Albrighton, Gardner etc. who may not turn out to be world beaters but surely are going to be good enough to be the backbone of a Top 8 side but I fear that they are being slowly drained off enthusiasm and opportunity.

It all starts with the fans. 98.5% don't want him here. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out what comes next.

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Re: Wigan Athletic v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #87 on: February 25, 2012, 05:17:32 PM »
The board are responsible for McLeish's contract.   They agreed it.   If you employ a chimney sweep to remove your appendix don't be surprised if you come out of hospital with a brush sticking out of your arse.

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Re: Wigan Athletic v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #88 on: February 25, 2012, 05:18:04 PM »
Woeful - and freezing.
Sack McLeish my lord the villa fans sang.
I was one of them

Is that true?
I have not heard any "organised" or sustained negativity

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Re: Wigan Athletic v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #89 on: February 25, 2012, 05:18:11 PM »
Copious amounts of alcohol.

Im with you on that one

 


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