Relegation Possibility

[Greg N'Ash]

If we assume our first choice eleven is Given, Hutton, Collins, Dunne, Warnock, N'Zogbia, Petrov, Ireland Jenas, Agbonlahor and Bent, that would give us reserves of:

Guzan, Cuellar, Clark, Delph, Albrighton, Heskey, Bannan and Delfouneso before we get into the youth team.

So we do have reserves. It's just that most of them are injured. And I'm sure greg you don't expect us to have two whole reserve teams?

heh. Well i certainly wouldn't class Bannon as a reserve yet. What's his appearances, about 14 starts and about 30 overall? Hardly knows the way to the home dressing room. Likewise Clarke who's made about 20 i think. Albrighton i suppose is now probably more out of necessity that choice. Certainly on his form this season he's not going to be much more than a reserve

So using my definition of a reserve (ie played some games at a decent level) that leaves us Brad (gone in the summer) Carlos( gone in the summer), Heskey (gone in the summer hopefully), delpth (larf) and the Fonz.

God almighty, Greg, that's utterly nonsensical.

Under your definition:

Delfouneso (started 13 games in 4 years) = a reserve.
Clark (started 35 games) = not a reserve.
Bannan (started 24 games, has also played for his country, has featured for us this season) = not a reserve.

 take your point about the Fonz. So no i wouldn't class him as a reserve.. As for the appearances you're including cup games against lower opposition where teams traditionally play the youth anyway. A few were against decent teams but its 14 starts against premiership teams i'm looking at for Bannon and about 25 for Clarke. Playing for scotland? meh. Be scottish in the premier league and you're virtually guaranteed to be selected anyway.

[dave.woodhall]

You also have to remember that Greg's definition of 'a few' is two and the result of a bet is something only he can decide.

[ian c.]

My head tells me that we could pick up points against Stoke, Sunderland, Bolton, WBA and Norwich and on current their current form against Liverpool and Spuds.

My paranoid alter ego says we will lose all of them and end the season having to field a number of the U14 team.

[villanic]

I think it’s a real possibility now, If the Bolton game would have been played (if Muamba hadn’t fallen ill) when originally scheduled then we would have got a win which would have been 2 on the bounce and would have gave us a little cushion, we will be facing a more confident Bolton in the rearranged game.

I’m struggling now to see where our next win might come from, we’ve got Liverpool away on Saturday and I’m worried we could be facing a wounded beast with the way there form has gone since they won the league cup. If the youngsters take a hammering at anfield and then have to face a physical Stoke team on Monday it might knock any confidence they have right out of them.

The other thing that worries me is the fact that Wigan have just beaten Liverpool away and Stoke at home but I can’t se us doing that and that might be the problem with our run in, the lack of fight and the lack of experience in relegation battles.

If we do go down this season then Mcleish should never get another job in football again, 3 relegation in 4 seasons would be a disgrace.

[Rip Van We Go Again]

In today's Birmingham Mail, Eckycunt acknowledges that we're in a 'relegation scrap'

How did it come to this?

[VillaAlways]

In today's Birmingham Mail, Eckycunt acknowledges that we're in a 'relegation scrap'

How did it come to this?

From having a clueless owner and CEO

[Irish villain]

In today's Birmingham Mail, Eckycunt acknowledges that we're in a 'relegation scrap'

How did it come to this?

He must be proud. Remember when he was appointed? Talking about 'adding his own chapter to villa's illustrious history'? Now he's the manager that has taken us as close as anybody else has to losing our top flight status in almost a quarter of a century.

[Greg N'Ash]

In today's Birmingham Mail, Eckycunt acknowledges that we're in a 'relegation scrap'

How did it come to this?

crap players, crap manager, crap owner. Think that about covers it.

[Rip Van We Go Again]

In today's Birmingham Mail, Eckycunt acknowledges that we're in a 'relegation scrap'

How did it come to this?

crap players, crap manager, crap owner. Think that about covers it.

Whilst I agree that the owner and manager are a pile of shit, I wouldn't say the players are.
Not of sufficient quality, but certainly not bottom 5.

[Concrete John]

Whilst I agree that the owner and manager are a pile of shit, I wouldn't say the players are.
Not of sufficient quality, but certainly not bottom 5.

That's the thing - even those like me, who haven't turned on AM yet, have to admit he's done a poor job this season given the players he has had to work with.

[Oscar Arce]

I said earlier in the season it would come to this and we have been sleepwalking into a relegation battle, well, we are in one now, as officially confirmed by Sralex this morning in interviews.
How did it come to this ?
By selling our best players and not replacing them, having a total disregard for the supporters and hoping to squeeze through the season just about surviving, having no ambition and totally finishing off this season ticket holder of 35 years, the award must go to Lerner.
A bunch of kids are left to get us out of a relegation place, and for that all concerned should hang their heads in shame.
It's a fucking disgrace.

[Greg N'Ash]

In today's Birmingham Mail, Eckycunt acknowledges that we're in a 'relegation scrap'

How did it come to this?

crap players, crap manager, crap owner. Think that about covers it.

Whilst I agree that the owner and manager are a pile of shit, I wouldn't say the players are.
Not of sufficient quality, but certainly not bottom 5.

Rubbish: dunne collins, warnock hutton,  heskey delpth

Iffy: Ireland, Nzogbia

Decent: carlos, Petrov given Bent gabby

rest are unproven

given the injuries and what left's left to pick from i'm not surprised we've been dragged in

[Clampy]

In today's Birmingham Mail, Eckycunt acknowledges that we're in a 'relegation scrap'

How did it come to this?

crap players, crap manager, crap owner. Think that about covers it.

Whilst I agree that the owner and manager are a pile of shit, I wouldn't say the players are.
Not of sufficient quality, but certainly not bottom 5.

Rubbish: dunne collins, warnock hutton,  heskey delpth

Iffy: Ireland, Nzogbia

Decent: carlos, Petrov given Bent gabby

rest are unproven

given the injuries and what left's left to pick from i'm not surprised we've been dragged in

But did't the majority of that squad finish 6th three times in a row?

Yes we've lost key members, but that squad of players you've listed should'nt be 5 points off the relegation trap door.

[Concrete John]

McLeish should be getting better from the defence in particular.

[Greg N'Ash]

In today's Birmingham Mail, Eckycunt acknowledges that we're in a 'relegation scrap'

How did it come to this?

crap players, crap manager, crap owner. Think that about covers it.

Whilst I agree that the owner and manager are a pile of shit, I wouldn't say the players are.
Not of sufficient quality, but certainly not bottom 5.

Rubbish: dunne collins, warnock hutton,  heskey delpth

Iffy: Ireland, Nzogbia

Decent: carlos, Petrov given Bent gabby

rest are unproven

given the injuries and what left's left to pick from i'm not surprised we've been dragged in

But did't the majority of that squad finish 6th three times in a row?

Yes we've lost key members, but that squad of players you've listed should'nt be 5 points off the relegation trap door.

well dunne and collins did it one season.   Cuellar Gabby Warnock Petrov. Heskey (don't laugh) so i suppose your right, but when you factor in most of them are past it or have been rotten form wise since well before Mcliesh  arrived, they're not really top 6 anymore by a long way.