Relegation Possibility

[andyh]

had the most vivid dream last night, that we lost our last home game of the season 1-0 (for some reason it was Wigan)and were relegated.
the whole ground pointing to the posh seats and singing to Lerner (to the tune of 'you don't know what you're doing) 'you wouldn't fucking listen'!!

Far too vivid for my liking.

[Fergal]

I'm really not sure about McLeish being our boss.
At times I think we have to give him a season, then during crazy moments during the game I think 'oh why oh why' then after the game and the dust has settled I think maybe he can turn it around.
Then you think well actually we played well against them and looked good against the other one and that if it wasn't for bad luck and silly individual errors we might have more points on the board.
Then you read all the comments about the strange things he has done regarding tactics and you really try and remember our last home win, or even our last win and start to think maybe its time to change him.

Then you see people thinking Heskey can play center back and then you know nobody actually knows anything anymore and the world has gone fucking mental.

I'm exactly the same, I really don't want him here but the reality is he's here to stay so I search desperately for any glimpse of positivity in the matter, its becoming harder and harder to find any unfortunately.

This

I agree with all of the above!

Just about nails it for me too...

[SoccerHQ]

Just watching survival sunday from last year on youtube. At 10:15 "They have no idea Jeff, they have 9 men behind the ball em i mean 10, there not even trying, look like there playing for a draw!" 10:56 "One minute to go the penny has finally dropped"

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Sounds the exactly how I would of desribed the game against Man City, McCleish still has no idea!

I'm amazed they managed to get a 1-1 with Spurs until the 90th minute given how utterly inept we were down there this season.

[Kingthing]

At the moment I don't know what I'd miss too much about being relegated, 3pm Kick off's on a Saturday, decent ticket prices, visit new grounds with decent fans. For the last 2 years my days of watching the Villa is made up of a lot of enthusiasm, meeting mates, drinking and having a great time.....Only ruined by watching 90 minutes of emotionless football.

I know deep down I don't want to be relegated but I'm not enjoying being mediocre, I need a good relegation battle to make me appreciate them again.       

[Villanation]

At the moment I don't know what I'd miss too much about being relegated, 3pm Kick off's on a Saturday, decent ticket prices, visit new grounds with decent fans. For the last 2 years my days of watching the Villa is made up of a lot of enthusiasm, meeting mates, drinking and having a great time.....Only ruined by watching 90 minutes of emotionless football.

I know deep down I don't want to be relegated but I'm not enjoying being mediocre, I need a good relegation battle to make me appreciate them again.     

Think your going to get that whatever...

[Legion]

Let's see what happens this coming weekend...

[VillaBobby]

At the moment I don't know what I'd miss too much about being relegated, 3pm Kick off's on a Saturday, decent ticket prices, visit new grounds with decent fans. For the last 2 years my days of watching the Villa is made up of a lot of enthusiasm, meeting mates, drinking and having a great time.....Only ruined by watching 90 minutes of emotionless football.

I know deep down I don't want to be relegated but I'm not enjoying being mediocre, I need a good relegation battle to make me appreciate them again.       

So true, the football gets in the way of a good day at the minute. This is the least most motivated side I have seen since Turner / McNeill.

By the way,where has the General gone?

[NiiLamptey]

I am working in the grim north during the week...

You know how every year a team that shouldnt be in the dog fight gets dragged in.... well all the Sunderland and "Nuke-us-all" fans I know think that we will be that team this year!

I said look at our next few fixtures we will be fine...

When we looked at them, if we do not pick up at least 7 points from those it will be squeeky bum time as we then have:

Chelsea, liverpool, stoke (should get something), Man U, Sunderland (given our luck are going to do us), West Brom (not confident although away so no boo boys), Tottenham & Norwich (Who are currently playing well)

But looking at those teams lower than us and their remaining games, we wont be in the bottom 3...

Wigan have a tough run, for how bad they are so wont pick up much more than 6 points rest of the season I think, so they are certain for going down about 25pt mark

Bolton have an OK run, can see them picking up 12 points putting them on 32

Wolves - Cant see them picking up many points now maybe 7, putting them level on 28 pts

Blackburn wont pick up many either, think they will finish around the 28 point mark....

QPR will string some wins together i think and finish with about 33 pts

I think we will end on about 38 pts if we can deliver over the next few games...

With Wigan, Wolves & Blackburn going down

[hawkeye]

Todays results have put us right in it, where are the points to stay upp going to come from?

[SoccerHQ]

I still believe 35 points is the survival target...I still back us to scamble two draws....

Wolves are down...I believe the loser of Wigan v Blackburn 2nd last game of the season will be relegated.

QPR are worrying me I must admit...they seem to be doing a West Ham from 5 years ago when they went on this mad winning run towards the end of the season. I thought they'd nick a point against Arsenal but not win. Only positive I can see is they still keep losing away from home and their final four away games are West Brom, Chelsea, Manure and Man. City.

We need to scramble 4 points from the Bolton, Stoke and Sunderland home games and get a point from either west brom (who slowly are being dragged into this) or Norwich away. 38 points will be enough with the goal difference.

Even McLeish can manage that surely?!

[hawkeye]

Not sure 35 points will be enough, 37 looks about right which is a win and a draw. Its getting the win that worries me.

[MplsVilla]

The bookmakers have 36 points needed to stay up. I would say 38 points and you are nailed on safe. So 1 win and 2 draws. That includes home games against Bolton, Sunderland and Stoke + away at Norwich and West Brom. Even with McLeish in charge and all the injuries I am very confident.

As for next season, if McLeish stays we will be one of the favourites for relegation.

[pauliewalnuts]

When he appointed McLeish last summer, the general cry of the fans was "but he plays shit negative football, and he gets teams relegated".

But hey, what do thousands of Villa fans know about the game compared to a chairman who probably had never watched a full 90 minutes of football in his life before 2006?

Now, look at where we are. We're 15th in the league. We're exactly where Blues were after 30 games in the league in terms of league position, except we actually have one point LESS than they had.

"Oh, but he had an injury crisis to deal with at Blues" the two or three remaining loyalists might say. Well, we too now have an injury crisis, which begs the question of whether maybe, just maybe we'd have got a few extra points when we had no injuries earlier this season, rather than giving up on too many matches practically before we'd started.

Sorry, but if we do not get relegated this season (and there's a very, very real chance we can, let's not kid ourselves), it is only staving off the inevitable.

The chairman is entirely clueless, and needs a strong, clued up manager to hold his hand. He hasn't got that now, and he's made possibly the worst appointment this club has made in decades.

Still, what does he care? He's hiding the other side of the Atlantic, having either given up caring or utterly, utterly bottled it.

Oh, and this is nothing about today, btw, this is everything about the many games this season we've been a spineless, embarassing fucking mess that really does not deserve to have the name "Aston Villa" associated with it.

[Risso]

Another defeat, and the trapdoor appears to be getting ever closer.

[Legion]

I think we'll be OK for this season. Next season fills me with dread.