Relegation Possibility

[levico]

McCarthy's gone so I think we can discount Wolves as relegation certainties.

[maidstonevillain]

ELLIS did'nt make us Champions Of Europe...It was Mr. Ronald Bendall

How the fcuking hell have we ended up being relegation candidates so soon after being Champions League contenders?  Our decline in the past 3 years is remarkable.

It took Ellis five years to take us from champions of Europe to relegation. That was remarkable.

I think it was Ron Saunders and Tony Barton TBF.

Ronald Bendall was the Chairman in '82...it was won on his watch....like any success or failure, its the chairman and the board that take the praise or the flak...Its called LEADERSHIP.

Nobody claimed Ellis was chairman when we won the European Cup. But he did inherit the European Champions, and get them relegated in record time. Out of interest, has it happened quicker anywhere else?

I don't think any other club has had the sheer rollercoaster of third division to first division champions to european champions to the second division in, what, fifteen odd years?

And like any roller-coaster ride, wasn't it fun! More entertaining than what we have to put up with now.

[James]

We won't go down.

McLeish may be god awful but he can at least beat relegation teams, we have beaten Wolves, Blackburn, Wigan and Bolton home and away this season.

In any case I reckon 35 or 36 points will keep you up this season.

Ummm ... we've taken 4 points from Wolves, haven't even played Wigan and Blackburn away yet, nor Bolton at home, unless you include the League Cup game ... which we lost!

Wolves will have a new manager soon, and though everyone says that QPR are crap I'd like to remind everyone that we failed to beat them this season ... twice!

I am not yet convinced that we'll be safe, far from it!

[Pete3206]

We love our dramas don't we? Relegation? Not going to happen.

[remy]

Why I think we will be relegated:

I dont think Mcleish has the resources, man management skills or football astute-ness to pull us out of this mess. Game after game we concede ridiculous set piece goals and from a former defender means the back four either dont respect him, fear him or he is just plain wrong.

Forget the pretty football, our defensive - dont-lose-at-any-cost mentality isnt working neither. He insists on nullyfying our creativity hence the Ireland and Bannan dropping.

There are worse teams than us but quite frankly the squad that we have should be able to pull clear and grind out better results but its just not happening. Whenever we NEED to win a game we just cant quite manage it. I think that the teams below us will conspire to have better results over the next few games and we will be in the thick of it. Then having needing the 3 points on 2 games to go we fail and then our destiny is out of our hands and bang! Welcome to the championship after 25 years in the top flight and one of the final original 7 left from the Inaugral Premiership to go down.

We simply cant sell our best players and then expect the kids to keep us in the Premiership, the board is taking a massive gamble here and its not paying off. Forget the performances, I just want the win no matter how it comes for us to stay up.

[Compass]

I'm sure the SHA fans thought they wouldn't go down with 30 points with still 13 games to play, while feeling invincible after coming from a Carling Cup win moments later.

Blackburn and Wigan have improved alot lately. Bolton have been good as well. QPR have been poor but I still think Hughes is good enough to get them out of it. And lastly there's Wolves with Mick being sacked that could enable them to get out of it as well with the new manager syndrome.

We? We're still stuck with the relegation perfectionist and this is the time where he begins to collpase in the league. Be very scared.

[DB]

Alex has been here, before, he knows what it takes to get a team....oh. Bugger.

[Vanilla]

Don't think we will go down. It's not that we are good enough, it's just you can identify at least three teams worse than us.

In weekend round-up of the PL The Guardian notes that the manager has identified 'winnable' games, and is taking that approach to the season. As such they think our poor performance against Citeh was because it was deemed not a winnable game.

What a sad state of affairs to see Villa reduced to this mentality. We'll be resting players against the big clubs next.

[Villanation]

Relegation is a very distinct possibility, the games v Wigan and Blackburn well be all encompassing, massive games that we need to take 6pts from, that will be sufficient to keep us ahead of the race and pretty safe.

We drop points there and in my opinion we will get sucked in.

I think the move that Wolves have done today is exactly right, it could even save them as the general trend is that any new manager has a kind of honeymoon period where the players give that bit extra, so this move by Wolves could be very astute indeed, probably they are acting now because they can envisage a few mangers going and want to get the best of what's available in getting in there first, in fact its precisely what Lerner should do if we drop point to Wigan.

[Ads]

I don't think its a realistic possibility at all.

[garyshawsknee]

Don't think we will go down. It's not that we are good enough, it's just you can identify at least three teams worse than us.

In weekend round-up of the PL The Guardian notes that the manager has identified 'winnable' games, and is taking that approach to the season. As such they think our poor performance against Citeh was because it was deemed not a winnable game.

What a sad state of affairs to see Villa reduced to this mentality. We'll be resting players against the big clubs next.

Bloody hell that's grim,he'll be coming out with 'Every games a cup final' soon enough.

[NeilH]

in fact its precisely what Lerner should do if we drop point to Wigan.

Do you honestly believe in a million years that Lerner would sack McLeish and fork out once more for compensation if we lost to Wigan? He has had to spend a large chunk of the monies earned from Downing and Young paying compensation to ex-managers, therefore it is utterly and totally inconceivable that he would do so on the basis on any results we have this season.

In fact I’d like to wager the shirt on my back that no matter what happens to us this season and next season, McLeish is going absolutely nowhere.

[Hookeysmith]

We have appointed a manager with a very good record in this area, let's not forget that.

Which I think was the reason behind the unrest during the summer.

Very good at what exactly - unless you mean taking a team that looks safe hurtling into relegation - as he does have a great record at that

[maidstonevillain]

Don't think we will go down. It's not that we are good enough, it's just you can identify at least three teams worse than us.

In weekend round-up of the PL The Guardian notes that the manager has identified 'winnable' games, and is taking that approach to the season. As such they think our poor performance against Citeh was because it was deemed not a winnable game.

What a sad state of affairs to see Villa reduced to this mentality. We'll be resting players against the big clubs next.

Do you think we could request the club publish the list of winnable games and the unwinnable games, so that we can then decide on which tickets to spend our hard easrned cash.

[Villanation]

in fact its precisely what Lerner should do if we drop point to Wigan.

Do you honestly believe in a million years that Lerner would sack McLeish and fork out once more for compensation if we lost to Wigan? He has had to spend a large chunk of the monies earned from Downing and Young paying compensation to ex-managers, therefore it is utterly and totally inconceivable that he would do so on the basis on any results we have this season.

In fact I’d like to wager the shirt on my back that no matter what happens to us this season and next season, McLeish is going absolutely nowhere.

No I don't, that's why i'm saying what we should do....

Anyway is the shirt designer or what.....