Aston Villa v Manchester City Post-Match Thread

[PeterWithesShin]

Petrov and Bent were crap today. City didn't need any defenders with those 2 around giving away possession, stupid free kicks and for a striker, Bent seems to be Angelesque in his lack of knowledge of the offside law.

P.s. Darren, you are a striker. When your team is 1-0 down in the last minute and you are put through, head for the fucking goal. Twat.

[taylorsworkrate]

As people are saying his view is that if we'd have started more positively then we would have been ripped apart. Is that the ripped apart that Everton and Sunderland suffered Alex?

He seems to have convinced himself that AVFC cannot compete with the big boys because we don't have the means. I remember him saying something similar about Birmingham in relation to Villa on the day that we beat his Blues 5-1. It seems that this is his footballing truth.

Well, I'm glad that nobody has told Paul Lambert, David Moyes or Brendan Rodgers this because they clearly would all be in the bottom 6 by now on this reckoning

Money is important, evidently, but these three managers prove that if you have belief and a vision of how to play and a positive attitude to go with it then you can overcome financial disadvantages. Alex McLeish is stuck in a mental straightjacket that he will never get out of. He lacks the vision to take this club forward. Christ, he lacks the vision to even keep this club stood still. Let's end this failed appointment now before it leads to relegation, if not this year, then next.

Excellent post.

[manic-road]

Blaming Bent is harsh, he was given no service during any part of the game.

[avfcpg]

Well next 4 games are Wigan & Blackburn away and Fulham & Bolton at home. He's going to need to win at least 2 of those because the next 5 games after them include Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool and Man Yoo and setting up like that against the so called "big" teams will get us feck all out of them..

Worrying times indeed.

[PeterWithesShin]

Oh and can find a real captain please? Only Albrighton, Carlos and Hutton tried geeing the side up after they scored. And it would be nice if after a player drops a clanger, like the Carlos pass, someone went over and said something to them.

[Villafirst]

Well Randy, great appointment McLeish was! I wish Lerner and McLeish would just go. Since MON quit RL has made cock-up after cock-up. Let's face it Lerner makes these appointments and decisions - he's the one who deserves to be given a rough ride by the fans. It was my gut feeling last summer that we would be in this situation now. That was a carbon copy of the Man Utd game - McLeish hasn't a clue how to turn this round - for fuck sake starting with Heskey and leaving N'Zogbia and Ireland on the bench - just to ''teach them a lesson'' Fuck off Lerner and take McLeish with you!!

[KevinGage]

How many times does this absolute negative moronic tit have to be told that trying to defend for 90 minutes at home in the hope of getting a 0-0 draw is not only the worst kind of negativity but it doesn't fucking work because the opposition will eventually score.  You pathetic prick.

But it's the players/ the fans/ the price of Bank of America shares falling...

Ah fcuk it.  I'm fresh out of excuses.

[Compass]

If a chairman listened to what he said tonight in his interview he would be sacked. Deadly Doug would have sacked him right at the spot by now. But then again, he wouldn't have been so stupid to hire him in the first place.

Have we got the dumbest chairman in the football world?

[PeterWithe]

Its difficult to criticise Bent and Keane, the way we were set up they didn't even have scraps to feed on, did we get wide in the final third more than twice?

Horrible to watch, at least Stoke can launch it into the box from a throw in to give a bit of excitement.

[Goldie.7]

''Just because they have the Aston Villa badge we have no divine right to be up there'' -''That's the luck that's gone against Villa'' McLeish really is a tit with those quotes isn't he!

[Villafirst]

How many times does this absolute negative moronic tit have to be told that trying to defend for 90 minutes at home in the hope of getting a 0-0 draw is not only the worst kind of negativity but it doesn't fucking work because the opposition will eventually score.  You pathetic prick.

But it's the players/ the fans/ the price of Bank of America shares falling...

Ah fcuk it.  I'm fresh out of excuses.

If a chairman listened to what he said tonight in his interview he would be sacked. Deadly Doug would have sacked him right at the spot by now. But then again, he wouldn't have been so stupid to hire him in the first place.

Have we got the dumbest chairman in the football world?

A simple answer - yes!!

[Merv]

What we saw today is my problem with McLeish, which is what I've known since we were linked with him. It's not about lack of transfer funds, the opposition, giving him a chance, etc... it's about his basic coaching method.

I'd love to know what his thought process behind his team selection today was. I mean that genuinely. I'm fascinated. What was Heskey's role? To play wide, cover the full-back, up and down, track players? Why would that work? It never has. And why pick him there when we have recognised wide players who can do that role? And how did he arrive at Cuellar at LB? If he was totally at a loss and didn't want to try Lichaj or Baker there, or gamble with Stevens... just stick with Warnock.

The last thing a coach should be doing, in the situation we are in, is sticking round pegs in square holes. He should have either gone with a neat and compact 4-4-2 with Albrighton and N'Zogbia wide, or one of the two wingers with Ireland on the other side, coming inside to give us three in the middle when required and moving wider to find space when we're moving forward.

How he elected to find the starting X1, I'll never know. It looked wrong from the start, how could he not know that? City are not in great form, but again, we're at home and we've totally handed the initiative over to the visitors.

[caster troy]

Before today I felt a bit sorry for McLeish because while he is hopelessly out of his depth at Villa it's not his fault we were stupid enough to give him the job.

After that match and his latest comments I hate the clueless, gutless imbecile with a passion.

I cannot wait for the moment I hear he's gone, at this rate I will be celebrating like we've won the league.

[villadelph]

''Just because they have the Aston Villa badge we have no divine right to be up there'' -''That's the luck that's gone against Villa'' McLeish really is a tit with those quotes isn't he!

No Alex, this is the boat you've been steering since August.

[ozzjim]

PeterWitheShin, Bent nearly rescued it for us for christs sake, so blaming him is way over the top, and he would not be giving possession away if he was not having to drop into our own half all the time - he hardly gave it away once under Houllier FFS!! The amount of stick he gets for a bloke who has 19 in 40 for us is incredible.

My mind was changing on Eck, I was getting on his side, but the last 135 minutes have nailed his coffin back shut for me. Basically, withdraw all creativity, cling on and then have a go for 2 minutes.


We have not won in 7 at home you clueless oaf FFS, that gameplan was clearly not excellent. Sunderland and Everton, not that much better than us in reality, have both beaten City in recent weeks. If your plan was excellent, they are managed by pure god like genius clearly.

Total pratt of an interview, display, team selection.


A wise man once claimed............we're doooooooomed!! I fear we are. I can't see us getting more than 35 points.