Protest? Not in my name...the football match is the main event

[Jimmy Smash]

Does anyone else think that the protesters and the general "meh" of the fans is a bigger problem that McLeish? 

I'm confident the players would be playing better if the pressure on them from the fans was less negative and more supportive.  For that reason alone the protests are counter productive without even beginning to question their justification.   

Spoken like a true fan.

The meh is not the problem. It's the boo boys that trasmit their negativity to the players. It's a huge problem.

[Dave Clark Five]

Does anyone else think that the protesters and the general "meh" of the fans is a bigger problem that McLeish? 

I'm confident the players would be playing better if the pressure on them from the fans was less negative and more supportive.  For that reason alone the protests are counter productive without even beginning to question their justification.   

Spoken like a true fan.

The meh is not the problem. It's the boo boys that trasmit their negativity to the players. It's a huge problem.

So are you with us or against us?

[Jimmy Smash]

Does anyone else think that the protesters and the general "meh" of the fans is a bigger problem that McLeish? 

I'm confident the players would be playing better if the pressure on them from the fans was less negative and more supportive.  For that reason alone the protests are counter productive without even beginning to question their justification.   

Spoken like a true fan.

The meh is not the problem. It's the boo boys that trasmit their negativity to the players. It's a huge problem.

So are you with us or against us?

What? I'm a season ticket holder and a lifelong AVFC fan. Ive never booed a Villa player, manager or team. Read into that what you will.

[Dave Clark Five]

Does anyone else think that the protesters and the general "meh" of the fans is a bigger problem that McLeish? 

I'm confident the players would be playing better if the pressure on them from the fans was less negative and more supportive.  For that reason alone the protests are counter productive without even beginning to question their justification.   

Spoken like a true fan.

The meh is not the problem. It's the boo boys that trasmit their negativity to the players. It's a huge problem.

So are you with us or against us?

What? I'm a season ticket holder and a lifelong AVFC fan. Ive never booed a Villa player, manager or team. Read into that what you will.

I was just struggling to understand your previous post. Delighted to see I had misread it. We need all the support we can get.

[Shrek]

a manager most don't want and a team that is a shambles.

Again. An anti-McLeish person having to tell everyone how many similar clowns there are. It is the day before a game against the 2nd team in the league. Show some fucking support!

What are you on about?

Do you love Mcleish or something? I'm not anti Mcleish, but I didn't want him and would rather he wasn't our manager.
I support him while he is our boss, I'll never boo him but the facts are there for all to see,
He has been relegated 2 out of 3 seasons in the premier league and he isn't a very good manager.
Should we all just ignore the facts and let our club go down hill?

[Dave]

Does anyone else think that the protesters and the general "meh" of the fans is a bigger problem that McLeish? 

I'm confident the players would be playing better if the pressure on them from the fans was less negative and more supportive.  For that reason alone the protests are counter productive without even beginning to question their justification.   

Spoken like a true fan.

The meh is not the problem. It's the boo boys that trasmit their negativity to the players. It's a huge problem.

So are you with us or against us?

I apologise if I'm wrong, but I'm sure you were fairly vocally against O'Neill towards the end of his tenure.

Personally, I have no issue with treading water for the moment and consolidating but I'm not sure you're really the person to be taking the "if you don't support the manager then you're not supporting the club" line*

*assuming of course that I've remembered correctly

[supertommykN'iba]

Does anyone else think that the protesters and the general "meh" of the fans is a bigger problem that McLeish? 

I'm confident the players would be playing better if the pressure on them from the fans was less negative and more supportive.  For that reason alone the protests are counter productive without even beginning to question their justification.   

Spoken like a true fan.

The meh is not the problem. It's the boo boys that trasmit their negativity to the players. It's a huge problem.

So are you with us or against us?

I apologise if I'm wrong, but I'm sure you were fairly vocally against O'Neill towards the end of his tenure.

Personally, I have no issue with treading water for the moment and consolidating but I'm not sure you're really the person to be taking the "if you don't support the manager then you're not supporting the club" line*

*assuming of course that I've remembered correctly

Whilst he didn't like O'Neill at the time, never at any point would he have gone out of his way to 'protest' against him. Not only that, but not once did he boo the manager or the players.

You'll probably find that the main point DC5 is making is that the timing of this Protest is completely ridiculous, as is the manner of it. It seems to be very personal against McLeish and creates some negative vibes that quite clearly are not needed. We all know that this 'protest' will be made up of about 50 people singing about Birmingham.

[TimTheVillain]

I just hope that there aren't many showing themselves up today, It'd be oh so embarrassing.

I am led to believe that Randy's at the game, so maybe he'll be having a chuckle to himself - he knows this kind of thing happens, it happens at the Browns, and he's shown that it's like water off a ducks back there.

Even Wigan's fans don't do this and they're nailed on for relegation.

[supertommykN'iba]

I just hope that there aren't many showing themselves up today, It'd be oh so embarrassing.

There will only be about 50. This joint with the fact the media are apparently going to be there however, will make it even more embarrassing in my opinion.

[Dante Lavelli]

I just hope that there aren't many showing themselves up today, It'd be oh so embarrassing.

There will only be about 50. This joint with the fact the media are apparently going to be there however, will make it even more embarrassing in my opinion.

With just 50 fans, wouldn't it be great if Randy invited them all into a conference room and gave them the chance to "rant" in a coherent manner.  It'd be a great PR coup for the club (and Randy), plus you never know some frank dialogue might help both parties.

[dave.woodhall]

I just hope that there aren't many showing themselves up today, It'd be oh so embarrassing.

There will only be about 50. This joint with the fact the media are apparently going to be there however, will make it even more embarrassing in my opinion.

With just 50 fans, wouldn't it be great if Randy invited them all into a conference room and gave them the chance to "rant" in a coherent manner.  It'd be a great PR coup for the club (and Randy), plus you never know some frank dialogue might help both parties.

Bearing in mind their ambassador to us, can you imagine what they'd have to say?

[olaftab]

I just hope that there aren't many showing themselves up today, It'd be oh so embarrassing.

There will only be about 50. This joint with the fact the media are apparently going to be there however, will make it even more embarrassing in my opinion.

However SSN will show them from different angles that would make the group about 10000 strong.

[Jimmy Smash]

Does anyone else think that the protesters and the general "meh" of the fans is a bigger problem that McLeish? 

I'm confident the players would be playing better if the pressure on them from the fans was less negative and more supportive.  For that reason alone the protests are counter productive without even beginning to question their justification.   

Spoken like a true fan.

The meh is not the problem. It's the boo boys that trasmit their negativity to the players. It's a huge problem.

So are you with us or against us?

I apologise if I'm wrong, but I'm sure you were fairly vocally against O'Neill towards the end of his tenure.

Personally, I have no issue with treading water for the moment and consolidating but I'm not sure you're really the person to be taking the "if you don't support the manager then you're not supporting the club" line*

*assuming of course that I've remembered correctly

Me? I've only been a member of his site for two months. You must have me confused with someone else. Also, if you think I'm going to stand like a tit in the cold outsider the McGregor Suite shouting at anyone who goes in you're certainly mistaken.

[Dave Clark Five]

Does anyone else think that the protesters and the general "meh" of the fans is a bigger problem that McLeish? 

I'm confident the players would be playing better if the pressure on them from the fans was less negative and more supportive.  For that reason alone the protests are counter productive without even beginning to question their justification.   

Spoken like a true fan.

The meh is not the problem. It's the boo boys that trasmit their negativity to the players. It's a huge problem.

So are you with us or against us?

I apologise if I'm wrong, but I'm sure you were fairly vocally against O'Neill towards the end of his tenure.

Personally, I have no issue with treading water for the moment and consolidating but I'm not sure you're really the person to be taking the "if you don't support the manager then you're not supporting the club" line*

*assuming of course that I've remembered correctly

Whilst he didn't like O'Neill at the time, never at any point would he have gone out of his way to 'protest' against him. Not only that, but not once did he boo the manager or the players.

You'll probably find that the main point DC5 is making is that the timing of this Protest is completely ridiculous, as is the manner of it. It seems to be very personal against McLeish and creates some negative vibes that quite clearly are not needed. We all know that this 'protest' will be made up of about 50 people singing about Birmingham.

Well said Tom. There was malevolence with O'Neill. We have no evidence of that with McLeish. The man is trying his best and there is no point, especially before a game like we have today, making a protest that will be nothing but a nasty vendetta. The personal comments are totally out of order. The protest is not warranted and, on this occasion, I can only see it doing harm.

[Dave]

Me? I've only been a member of his site for two months. You must have me confused with someone else.

Not you, DC5