Isnt that just for playing in European games?
Quote from: MarkM on February 06, 2012, 02:34:03 PMOne thing that does concern me [amongst other things] is the comments made on many a thread along the lines of:"We should buy this player or that player" or "We need a new and better defence get rid and get better players in" Although I agree with the sentiments the reality as I see it means that we will not be spending loads trying to rebuild the team no matter how much we reduce the wage bill.What’s the point in all this cutting back if we are going to just splash the cash in the summer? We may as well just have spent in the last transfer window or not bothered to sell on players and kept them for squad strength.I see this reduction in spending being a long term thing [at least about 5 years] so I don’t see the future looking any brighter, unless RL finds some more cash to inject into the team. But with his focus apparently elsewhere I just don’t see RL putting in the time, effort and investment that is needed to turn us back into a consistent top 6 side againThe theory is, which obviously not everyone subscribes to, is that the wages must not exceed a certain level in relation to turnover. So if we're there now, then seeing players like Heskey, who is supposed to be on £30k a week, allows other to come in. We couldn't do this last summer as he, amongst others, were still here.Time will tell.
One thing that does concern me [amongst other things] is the comments made on many a thread along the lines of:"We should buy this player or that player" or "We need a new and better defence get rid and get better players in" Although I agree with the sentiments the reality as I see it means that we will not be spending loads trying to rebuild the team no matter how much we reduce the wage bill.What’s the point in all this cutting back if we are going to just splash the cash in the summer? We may as well just have spent in the last transfer window or not bothered to sell on players and kept them for squad strength.I see this reduction in spending being a long term thing [at least about 5 years] so I don’t see the future looking any brighter, unless RL finds some more cash to inject into the team. But with his focus apparently elsewhere I just don’t see RL putting in the time, effort and investment that is needed to turn us back into a consistent top 6 side again
£30k is a conservative estimate of what he is being paid.
Quote from: London Villan on February 06, 2012, 03:00:28 PM£30k is a conservative estimate of what he is being paid.Sorry - that should have read £60k!
Just about every club in the country has far more shit seasons than good... it's all part of being a football fan. I bet you if a survey was done of every fan leaving a football ground in England this coming weekend, more would be unhappy with what they'd just seen than happy – the majority would say it was poor value for money and a good proportion would grumble about their manager, or chairman.It defies logic that the vast majority keep going back, week in, week out... but we do. I don't know why at times, but I do to. So long as I can afford to and so long as we are The Villa and play at Villa Park I'm sure I will carry on doing so. Whoever is the manager, whichever division we're in and whatever overpaid, clueless bunch of let-downs are out on the pitch in claret n blue.Just imagine how good it'll feel to beat City on Sunday!
McLeish is not the least effective manager we have had, Lerner is not the most parsimonious chairman and Dunne is not the first centre back incapable of heaving his considerable frame more than 6 inches off the ground when trying to deal with a cross. The antipathy we're beginning to see goes deeper than that.
Newcastle to a degree have done extremely well picking up quality signings and seem to have a great scouting system, Ben Arfa,cabaye, Gutierrez, ba ,etc - whereas we seem to struggle to find these talents.
Quote from: Lee on February 06, 2012, 12:46:16 PMQuote from: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on February 05, 2012, 09:11:14 PMQuote from: martin o`who?? on February 05, 2012, 08:22:03 PMWhy are so many supporters now so hostile towards their own club and players?.I will tell you why. Because the younger supporters ( I mean anybody under 40), just like the players, are a bunch of over indulged spoilt brats who think they have an entitlement to everything, and they are entitled to it right now !With your mobile phones and i pads and whatever, you all turn up at the game in your air conditioned cars and have your nice comfy seats. You can watch live football under the stand on colour TVs before the game, get all the interviews and team info instantly. The pitches are all pristeen without a blade of grass out of place, and you see tippy tappy pretty football because nobody can tackle anymore without receiving a 4 game ban. At half time, you can even buy healthy food if you want and consume it in a smoke free atmosphere and relieve yourself in clean toilets. Back in my day you had to get four different shitty British Rail trains to get to a mud heap at Rochdale, get treated like shit by the Police, eat cold nasty pies at half time surrounded by the smell of woodbines, have a piss up against some corrugated iron fence, then after watching 22 blokes kick lumps out of each other and we had lost 1-0 hope to be back in Birmingham in time so you could get an Argus to find out any other results.....If you were lucky ! Your all soft ! Agreed .. Modern Football is Rubbish!It's not may fault though, well, not all of it.
Quote from: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on February 05, 2012, 09:11:14 PMQuote from: martin o`who?? on February 05, 2012, 08:22:03 PMWhy are so many supporters now so hostile towards their own club and players?.I will tell you why. Because the younger supporters ( I mean anybody under 40), just like the players, are a bunch of over indulged spoilt brats who think they have an entitlement to everything, and they are entitled to it right now !With your mobile phones and i pads and whatever, you all turn up at the game in your air conditioned cars and have your nice comfy seats. You can watch live football under the stand on colour TVs before the game, get all the interviews and team info instantly. The pitches are all pristeen without a blade of grass out of place, and you see tippy tappy pretty football because nobody can tackle anymore without receiving a 4 game ban. At half time, you can even buy healthy food if you want and consume it in a smoke free atmosphere and relieve yourself in clean toilets. Back in my day you had to get four different shitty British Rail trains to get to a mud heap at Rochdale, get treated like shit by the Police, eat cold nasty pies at half time surrounded by the smell of woodbines, have a piss up against some corrugated iron fence, then after watching 22 blokes kick lumps out of each other and we had lost 1-0 hope to be back in Birmingham in time so you could get an Argus to find out any other results.....If you were lucky ! Your all soft ! Agreed .. Modern Football is Rubbish!
Quote from: martin o`who?? on February 05, 2012, 08:22:03 PMWhy are so many supporters now so hostile towards their own club and players?.I will tell you why. Because the younger supporters ( I mean anybody under 40), just like the players, are a bunch of over indulged spoilt brats who think they have an entitlement to everything, and they are entitled to it right now !With your mobile phones and i pads and whatever, you all turn up at the game in your air conditioned cars and have your nice comfy seats. You can watch live football under the stand on colour TVs before the game, get all the interviews and team info instantly. The pitches are all pristeen without a blade of grass out of place, and you see tippy tappy pretty football because nobody can tackle anymore without receiving a 4 game ban. At half time, you can even buy healthy food if you want and consume it in a smoke free atmosphere and relieve yourself in clean toilets. Back in my day you had to get four different shitty British Rail trains to get to a mud heap at Rochdale, get treated like shit by the Police, eat cold nasty pies at half time surrounded by the smell of woodbines, have a piss up against some corrugated iron fence, then after watching 22 blokes kick lumps out of each other and we had lost 1-0 hope to be back in Birmingham in time so you could get an Argus to find out any other results.....If you were lucky ! Your all soft !
Why are so many supporters now so hostile towards their own club and players?.
Quote from: eastie on February 07, 2012, 12:39:47 PMNewcastle to a degree have done extremely well picking up quality signings and seem to have a great scouting system, Ben Arfa,cabaye, Gutierrez, ba ,etc - whereas we seem to struggle to find these talents.Those signings are nothing to do with a great scouting system. That's two French internationals, an Argentine international and one of the top scorers in the Premier League in the second half of last season. Anyone with even a basic interest in foreign football would have been aware of all of them.The thing that sets Newcastle apart at the moment is the willingness to take a risk on players who haven't played in England before.
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