Aston Villa v Everton Post-Match Thread

[olaftab]

We have become a very predictable team in a bad way. It was predictable that we would lose to manu, Lpool and Arsenal and we did. Chelsea was a surprise but we  balanced that with the Swansea result. Yesterday it was a nailed on draw and we delivered.
We are at Wolves next week and that will be a draw and than QPR at home. We must win that if we want to avoid  hovering on the brink of bottom 3 by the time Mancity win here.
Being at or a point or two above 3rd from bottom by mid Feb would be a very frightening place.

[olaftab]

That's the 2nd home game running that Warnock has done something so embarrassingly bad that he's pretended to be injured immediately after. Yesterday - the near Own goal. Swansea - when Dyer had just torn him a new one for the 3rd time during the 1st half. I really can't stand the bloke. Maybe Houlier had him sussed.

After the Dyer incident  he drove me to stand up and shout "Warnock you should have rang in sick today" and I never do that sort of think. The bloke is taking the piss and probably on it permanently! He should be booted out now. Get Clark at left back ...or anyone but Warnock.

[UK Redsox]

Why is everyone blaming Warnock for the goal, It was Albrighton fault for not tracking back or giving up trying to con the linesman he was offside.

I blame Hutton for the goal. He was way out of position when the break started

[UK Redsox]

That's the 2nd home game running that Warnock has done something so embarrassingly bad that he's pretended to be injured immediately after. Yesterday - the near Own goal. Swansea - when Dyer had just torn him a new one for the 3rd time during the 1st half. I really can't stand the bloke. Maybe Houlier had him sussed.

He always has an 'injury' or 'knock' when he drops a bollock. There is/was a decent player there but his confidence is shot.

Warnock's reaction to an error is becoming as predictable as Ash's "oh no, I may never walk again" knee-rubbing after he got fouled.

[Chris Smith]

Why is everyone blaming Warnock for the goal, It was Albrighton fault for not tracking back or giving up trying to con the linesman he was offside.

I blame Hutton for the goal. He was way out of position when the break started

That's always going to happen if you want your full backs to push on. It came from a quick throw by their keeper but the mistake was Albrighton stopping and waiving his hand in the air rather than continue tracking the player. It was dumb in the extreme considering he had run 60 yards with him.

[WarszaVillan]

I like the fact that Chris Smith now has a scapegoat. It can make us all feel a little bit better about ourselves

[Shrek]

Why is everyone blaming Warnock for the goal, It was Albrighton fault for not tracking back or giving up trying to con the linesman he was offside.

I blame Hutton for the goal. He was way out of position when the break started

I blame Petrov, he stood off Donovan and allowed him to run 50 yards with the ball.

[supertom]

Collins, Hutton and Warnock are all fucking abysmal at the moment. In part its simply form but at best none of these guys are better than average. We need to get players in who are average when they going through a sticky patch, and for the most part decent. Doing that with piss all money is quite difficult though.

Seriously though, why on Earth did we pay so much for Hutton? He's terrible.

Also its clear that we can't play Gabby and Bent as a front two. We can't play 4-4-2, because we don't have good enough midfielders or tactics. We always look better playing 4-3-3. So he needs to shift Gabby wide again.

Still, it's good to see Ireland is still playing quite well. If we switch to a formation that'll see us keep the ball better, then we could really start using him.

[villa `cross the mersey]

That's the 2nd home game running that Warnock has done something so embarrassingly bad that he's pretended to be injured immediately after. Yesterday - the near Own goal. Swansea - when Dyer had just torn him a new one for the 3rd time during the 1st half. I really can't stand the bloke. Maybe Houlier had him sussed.

He always has an 'injury' or 'knock' when he drops a bollock. There is/was a decent player there but his confidence is shot.

Warnock's reaction to an error is becoming as predictable as Ash's "oh no, I may never walk again" knee-rubbing after he got fouled.

John Gidman was adept to using the very same strategy - great marauding full back but would fail to get back to defend, feign an injury and then ruffle his flowing locks as he ambled back - usually as the opposition had taken advantage of him being out of position -  by scoring - ah the good old days !

[Clampy]

The game resembled most of the homes games so far. Average in the first half, but much better in the second. Once we got the goal, we looked quite good, knocking it around with confidence and looking like we might get a second but we went and gave a very sloppy goal away.

Ireland looked good again and if he keeps that level of perfomance up, Bent should get back in the goals on a regular basis again. Keane was lively when he came on and maybe should have come on 10 minutes earlier.

Downsides, the sloppy goal we gave away and Warnock. It might do him some good to leave him out for a few games, he looks very low on confidence. McCleish dose'nt seem to think he's playing that badly though which is a worry.

[ROBBO]

I hope you are not comparing Warnock with Gidman, the first is an embarrassment the second a great full back.

[brian green]

You beat me to it Robbo.   I have read some heretical comments on these threads over the years but to mention John Gidman and Stephen Warnock in the same breath is beyond the pale.   Bernie Gallagher was a better player than Warnock.

[Chris Smith]

I like the fact that Chris Smith now has a scapegoat. It can make us all feel a little bit better about ourselves

Don't be so fucking childish. It's not scapegoating to state a matter of fact. Albrighton was tracking him and stopped, watch the game and you'll see it for yourself. He played well last week but was pretty poor yesterday.

[Dave Summers]

Beat me as well.  The ONLY winger I can ever recall getting the better of Giddy was Willie Johnston of the Albion.   John Gidman remains the best right back I have ever seen play for the Villa.  How he only got one England cap is beyond me.

As for the game, I really would like McLeish to succeed but doing things like Ireland wide left is not helping him any.   Didn't work in Bristol last week and was never going to work yesterday.   Consequence of this is that we only kicked off at 3.30pm when he changed it.  Much better after that with Ireland getting on the ball and running the game to a large extent.   Perplexed by the lack of substitutions, yesterday we had as strong a bench as we have had for months and yet only one substitution?.    We needed to freshen it up badly over the last 20 mins with Petrov and Albrighton struggling, but no movement from Ooh Eck.    Also, if he isn't going to give Gardner any longer than 10 mins at Bristol and 15mins at Chelsea, is there any point in recalling him from Coventry?.    Let's see what he is made of for christ sake.

[Dave Cooper please]

The beer in The Bartons was nice.